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    Posted: December 07 2009 at 10:44
Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Just jammed together some awesome riffs on bass!
They're in D-tuning and would work in Grunge, Heavy Blues Rock, Sabbath-sounding-Metal, psychedelic rock or Stoner rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2009 at 00:03
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Just jammed together some awesome riffs on bass!
They're in D-tuning and would work in Grunge, Heavy Blues Rock, Sabbath-sounding-Metal, psychedelic rock or Stoner rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2009 at 06:48
Just jammed together some awesome riffs on bass!
They're in D-tuning and would work in Grunge, Heavy Blues Rock, Sabbath-sounding-Metal, psychedelic rock or Stoner rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2009 at 18:29
Cyclsym:  sorry, my mistake.  For some reason I was reading North Dakota and thinking Nebraska Wacko  LOL which is where Kearney is located. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2009 at 13:38
I CAN play any instrument you'd really involve in most band setups.  I actually am proficient on guitar, harmonica, organ, and synth.  And i'm currently in a band that started with me on guitar, but now i'm almost always on organ and synth.  I have been taking theory classes for a few years and am going to college next year and either majoring or minoring in music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2009 at 12:05
@Trade Mark and Easy Money

I am studying at a small school in North Dakota, Minot State University. I am studying trumpet and majoring in Music Education. But yeah, I also play guitar just for fun. Where is Kearney?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2009 at 10:38
I've been playing guitar for almost 17 years and I also dabble with other instruments (for purposes of recording).  I was much more into theory in my late teens and early twenties, but I do know a moderate amount.
Take a few minutes and listen to this!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2009 at 10:29
I play music and am involved in a number of projects in my spare time; I know a bit of theory
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2009 at 01:29
I play guitar and bass guitar.
I know the modes of the major scale pretty much inside out and also know the chord scale relationships as a result of studying that stuff.
I know a bit about counterpoint, chord/arpeggio substitution and a few other concepts.

Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

I know a moderate amount of theory. It's very helpful for me because my natural ear is average at best. I've worked on that aspect of my musicianship too, but theory saves my rear in lots of situations. I think knowing the basics of how I ii iii IV V iv iivo I and circle of fifths and basic stuff like that probably should be under the belt of anyone who wants to be a serious musician. There's a lot more out there which I find useful, but not everyone will want to spend their time on.


I can definitely agree with this.
I can work out stuff like the outro instrumental section of White Walls or some Buckethead guitar solos by ear, and to many people that's considered impressive (but I don't particularly think so haha),  and I did put in a fair bit of work to get to that level with my ear but I put on something like Allan Holdsworth or say, Shawn Lane's really jazz fusion-y moments and that sh*t just goes way above my head, I just can't hear what's going on. I can listen to it and appreciate the beauty in it, but is it a lydian flat 7 scale, or an altered scale going on kinda thing? I really just don't have a clue.
I also don't really understand that kind of music theory a lot of jazzers and fusioners know either, but then again I have no plans to venture outside rock and metal anyway haha


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If anyone's interested, here's my keyboard:

Kawai • K1

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The K1 is one of Kawai's most economic digital synthesizers in the K-series. The K1 has 256 digital samples of waveforms, 50 of which are from acoustic instruments. You combine up to four wave shapes to create very new and unique sounds. The K1 is capable of very good acoustic recreation, excellent unique synth sounds or at times, completely noisy walls of complex sound.

Here's my first one: info from the link below

Korg • Poly-61

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The Korg Poly-61 was released in 1982 as the successor to the Polysix. It was somewhat of a step up from the Polysix, as it has 2 DCOs for better reliability. It also retained the arpeggiator of the Polysix. It has a very dirty sharp sound much like the Yamaha DX7. This is good if you are into the lo-fi sound of electronica. The Poly-61 can provide cool gritty basses or trippy analog sounds and fx.

Also added is the familiar Korg joystick, which can be used to modulate the VCO or the VCF. However, its filter only has 7 steps of resonance and is not as fat as the Polysix's filter. It also uses the same method of programming the Poly-800 and Yamaha DX-7 use, so it's not a very useful synth for real-time-tweaking junkies. The first Poly-61s didn't have MIDI, but the Poly-61M released in 1984 corrects this. Overall, the Poly-61 is still a decent synth, and it can be acquired for practically nothing! It has been used by FM Static and The Faint.

http://www.vintagesynth.com



Edited by Slartibartfast - December 04 2009 at 14:23
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2009 at 13:09
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

I've played guitar and sung for 20 years.  Primarily by ear

Wow, you must have some heavy calluses on your ear. Tongue


Well, I figured if Hendrix could use his tongue, why couldn't I use my ear?  LOL











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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2009 at 13:01
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Im a self-taught drummer, very good at learning by listening although I never studied much theory.
 
Main inluences are Phil Collins, Bill Bruford, Daniel Denis, Christian Vander, Mark Zonder and Billy Cobham! Thumbs Up
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2009 at 10:33
Im a self-taught drummer, very good at learning by listening although I never studied much theory.
 
Main inluences are Phil Collins, Bill Bruford, Daniel Denis, Christian Vander, Mark Zonder and Billy Cobham! Thumbs Up
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2009 at 10:25
Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

I've played guitar and sung for 20 years.  Primarily by ear

Wow, you must have some heavy calluses on your ear. Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2009 at 09:41
I've played guitar and sung for 20 years.  Primarily by ear, though I did have guitar lessons for the first two years I played.  But that was mostly learning songs, chords, scales, and some improv.  I also took piano lessons for a semester in college, where I learned basic sight reading, but I've pretty much forgotten all that now Embarrassed 

I do feel that more theory would have helped me, as I feel that much of my music lacks melodic development.  Though I can impress my friends with my fast fretting and crazy chord structures.  I do feel somewhat limited by my lack of musical knowledge, but I also feel like I've created some interesting music partly due to this lack of knowledge (i.e., not knowing the "rules").

I assume I must have a fairly good ear, as I usually have little trouble figuring out how to play things by listening to them a few times and working it out.  This isn't the case with a Satriani solo though, however Gilmore and Hackett I've always been able to work out.  Mostly though, I prefer to come up with my own stuff and I generally improvise solos.  When recording, I will often do several takes, and kind of "learn" the solo that I think works best and then use that as the final version.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2009 at 08:47
I have a Master's in Miusic Composition & Theory, A Master's in Music History and my doctorate in Interdisciplinary Arts with a focus in Music Aesthetics and Philosophy so, yeah, I've had a course or two (and taught a course or two) in theory.

I'll echo Easy Money's question, where are you studying?  If you're at Kearney there are some folks you can say hello to for me.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2009 at 08:41
Studied Classical Piano, DEC in Music, and played keys in a progressive metal band.  Don't play as much any more, but still have my little studio and toy around.

I think most prog fans are musicians.  Let's face it, you just appreciate it more than if you are a casual music fan.

too bad most people who run the music business have never touch an instrument in their lives!  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2009 at 08:19
Originally posted by cyclysm748 cyclysm748 wrote:

Easy Money-Heck yes I am still checking this thread. Masters degree, wow. Yeah, theory is very important in jazz, though I'm not the greatest improviser at this point. What instrument do you play?


I play kybds, I guess you play guitar. Where are you going to school?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2009 at 03:47
I've been playing keyboard for fifteen years and managed to learn more about how music works than how to really play it very well ;p my favourite instrument right now is the nintendo entertainment system, ala this song I wrote. composed on keyboard and then reimagined for something I like the sound of better.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 03 2009 at 23:19
Easy Money-Heck yes I am still checking this thread. Masters degree, wow. Yeah, theory is very important in jazz, though I'm not the greatest improviser at this point. What instrument do you play?
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