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Cristi 
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Posted: February 19 2010 at 12:13 |
 tupan wrote:
John Myung is the unique member of DT that don't have a solo album? |
he doesn't have solo albums but he played bass in two projects - Platypus and The Jelly Jam, both with Ty Tabor of King's X. Platypus had Derek Sherinian and Rod Morgenstein. Derek gave up on Platypus, so the remaining 3 created The Jelly Jam and did teo albums. I thought they were really good albums. 
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whydontyoueatcarrots
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Posted: January 14 2010 at 13:12 |
Juiceboxbiotch wrote:
Has Myung actually ever influenced anybody???
Every time I listen to a Dream Theater CD I hear lots of DRUMS and GUITAR and KEYS and VOCALS and bass.
Just like ...And Justice for All
Speaking of... Ever heard ...And Justice for Jason? |
Yup, it's amazing how much better those songs sound with bass added. It's a shame Myung is mixed so low, it takes a lot of talent to play their songs just to be almost inaudible.
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Juiceboxbiotch
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Posted: January 12 2010 at 17:28 |
Has Myung actually ever influenced anybody???
Every time I listen to a Dream Theater CD I hear lots of DRUMS and GUITAR and KEYS and VOCALS and bass.
Just like ...And Justice for All
Speaking of... Ever heard ...And Justice for Jason?
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whydontyoueatcarrots
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Posted: January 11 2010 at 19:04 |
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They are both very skilled bassists, but I hear no similarity in their playing. I prefer Trujillo, because he was an influence during my funk metal days. I use to listen to those infectious grooves album and think, "How the hell does he do that?"
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jampa17
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Posted: January 11 2010 at 16:19 |
Well.. Death Magnetic sounds a lot like a "regular" or "normal" Train of Thought with a different singer... I think that both have their different influences but Trujillo is a good musician, still I don't feel that he is a metal-soul, so I don't feel like he fit in the band, as a stage man... I know he is great but you can be moving your shoulders around at the side of some hard*ss as heitfield, but well is their choice...
In the other hand... I don't know why is so much about Myung so low in the mix... I always can hear him and is good to have him low because when the bass is too up in the mix the complete piece feels like drawned, like every instrument is flooded... so, I can live with the mixes they uses...
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Posted: January 01 2010 at 22:24 |
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the topic is only kind of funny 'cause I'm pretty sure I had heard of trujillo before I ever heard of myung. and we're going back 20 years here.
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Posted: January 01 2010 at 22:08 |
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I've seen DT live. Had no problems hearing the bass, ever.
Also have some of their albums, and again, no issues with hearing the bass guitar at all. There is plenty of bass there in the mix.
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Posted: January 01 2010 at 21:52 |
tupan wrote:
Nobody have played anything in St. Anger... the worst album on PA.
But Robert Trujillo is a skilled bass player.
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st. anger is actually pretty awesome. it's like metallica meets leftover crack
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Posted: January 01 2010 at 21:20 |
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Posted: January 01 2010 at 15:57 |
Trademark wrote:
I never look for trouble  . It just finds me.
I was actually referring to the way a lot of DT is mixed. The sound is kind of a thick, turgid sludge that leaves little room for well defined bass sounds. You often can't really tell what , if anything john is playing. I have no doubt that he's a really fine musician, but I think it would be frustrating to be the bass player in that band.
Bass needs space. |
Myung is a great bassist, as a fact one of the best ever playing with a six string bass.
But Trademark has a point, unless you have four legs and ears able to listen bellow 10 DB, you can't listen him, I once read that Portnoy confessed he followed Petrucci on stage because he wasn't able to listen Myung most of the time (Not normal in any rhythm section).
That's not Myung's mistake, that's responsability of the sound mixing department and the guy who runs the console in concerts.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - January 01 2010 at 15:59
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Posted: January 01 2010 at 14:50 |
I know the punchline is as old and worn out as the latest DT album release.... but still fun.. and worth it just to get a laughie. Thanks Pekka 
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Posted: January 01 2010 at 14:46 |
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Posted: January 01 2010 at 14:37 |
tupan wrote:
John Myung is the unique member of DT that don't have a solo album?
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*insert smart ass comment about listening to 40 minutes of his bass mixed under the sound of the producer snoring*
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tupan
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Posted: January 01 2010 at 14:27 |
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John Myung is the unique member of DT that don't have a solo album?
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"Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen)
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tupan
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Posted: January 01 2010 at 14:24 |
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Nobody have played anything in St. Anger... the worst album on PA.
But Robert Trujillo is a skilled bass player.
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"Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen)
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Posted: December 31 2009 at 21:55 |
Trademark wrote:
I never look for trouble . It just finds me.
I was actually referring to the way a lot of DT is mixed. The sound is kind of a thick, turgid sludge that leaves little room for well defined bass sounds. You often can't really tell what , if anything john is playing. I have no doubt that he's a really fine musician, but I think it would be frustrating to be the bass player in that band.
Bass needs space. |
I have trouble hearing Myung on a lot of DT albums, especially Train of Thought. Maybe its because he often mirrors what Petrucci is doing on guitar. But when he does get a solo, man, that guy can play bass!
Trujillo is also very good, but as said, he does come from a different background musically to Myung. Metallica have been guilty of limiting the bassist's role ever since Cliff died, really. Remember the whole mixing Newsted out of And Justice For All debacle?
We've only one album to go on, really, about Rob Trujillo's prowess as Metallica's bassist. Although he is credited on St Anger, he did not actually play on that album. Didn't Bob Rock play the bass on that one?
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Posted: August 31 2009 at 19:06 |
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hahahhahhaa....
to quote Raff.... 'there must be something in the water'...
*munch munch munch*
I do love this site and it's cast of characters...
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Posted: August 31 2009 at 19:05 |
I never look for trouble . It just finds me.
I was actually referring to the way a lot of DT is mixed. The sound is kind of a thick, turgid sludge that leaves little room for well defined bass sounds. You often can't really tell what , if anything john is playing. I have no doubt that he's a really fine musician, but I think it would be frustrating to be the bass player in that band.
Bass needs space.
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Posted: August 31 2009 at 15:45 |
Trademark wrote:
Dream Theater has a bass player? |
You sound like someone looking for trouble.  On the other hand, I must confess I've never been impressed by the bass in DT, while the bass part on Infectious Grooves' 'Therapy' (the version with Osbourne) was... great.
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Posted: August 30 2009 at 23:19 |
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Dream Theater has a bass player?
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