Sacha Baron Cohen

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Atavachron wrote: guess I'll have to see one of these if only to have an opinion, been avoiding his movies as for stupidity in cinema, I imagine in their time Python got criticized for just that, ironic

On a totally irrelevant side note, I visited Graceland many years ago and was surprised to find out that Elvis was a big fan of the Holy Grail movie.  I'm not making this up.

progkidjoel wrote: Did anyone else notice BRUNO felt and seemed way more set up than BORAT??

Yes.
That is one reason I loved Borat so much. The poor b*****ds had no clue....
Obviously, some were staged but most of it was just...what we saw.

Not the same in Bruno. Especially that part with the child photo shoot.
At first we were laughing.....but as it went it was so fake.
I thought maybe it was just edited in a way to make them look sick....but it had to have been set up.


Edited by JJLehto - July 31 2009 at 22:59

Well, T guess we're in trouble with the law now!

But seriously dude, sorry.
Not sure what's been up with me, I'm guessing summer boredom and WAY too much time on the internet. Anyway, that whole thing outta hand, my bad.

Ok truce, I'm getting way too serious over a trivial topic here.

I call myself arrogant proggie cuz evidently that's the stereotype and I wouldn't want to let people down by not fulfillign it.

The T is entitled to an opinion though, just like the rest of us. No need to get aggressive.

Intellecectual wannabes, wow concieted much?

Deathrabbit wrote: The T wrote: JJLehto wrote: Well I dont think ANYone, (who is sane) actually expects Cohen movies to change anyones viewpoints. Those that enjoy them, (generally) will already be open minded about such topics. People who hate gays well, of course they'll hate the movie but they wouldn't like it anyway. His work is not for everyone, that's for sure.   True. Now, we established he will not change people's minds, so his work doesn't really have any redeeming value from that side. As a display of story-telling art, is garbage. What is it, then? A desire to shock, to impress by disgust, in a society where every day it's easier to impress people just by being rude and un-civil. The destruction of cinema. Stories are gone. Please, cinema will be destroyed by meat head sh*t like Crank and Fast and Furious and stupid slasher movies like TCM or The Unborn (seriously, movie with creepy kid that kills ppl, that never happens) long before it's threatened by the likes of Cohen. In fact I'd venture to say his stuff has more of a plot than the aforementioned genres.

Deathrabbit wrote: The T wrote: JJLehto wrote: Well I dont think ANYone, (who is sane) actually expects Cohen movies to change anyones viewpoints. Those that enjoy them, (generally) will already be open minded about such topics. People who hate gays well, of course they'll hate the movie but they wouldn't like it anyway. His work is not for everyone, that's for sure.   True. Now, we established he will not change people's minds, so his work doesn't really have any redeeming value from that side. As a display of story-telling art, is garbage. What is it, then? A desire to shock, to impress by disgust, in a society where every day it's easier to impress people just by being rude and un-civil. The destruction of cinema. Stories are gone. Please, cinema will be destroyed by meat head sh*t like Crank and Fast and Furious and stupid slasher movies like TCM or The Unborn (seriously, movie with creepy kid that kills ppl, that never happens) long before it's threatened by the likes of Cohen. In fact I'd venture to say his stuff has more of a plot than the aforementioned genres.

Thank you! Yeah, this is just the T  being his usual self.
I mean to say this is the destruction of cinema and story telling? I think that's been happening for a long time....
And Bruno had no subtlety....However, Borat... I still don't see how that one is "obvious"
Whatever, like I said Cohen is awesome. And honestly....I'm not really going to listen to many of the people on here, since....well everyone tries to show how "different" they are and hate everything.

Like I said...all this debate, even in a negative way, is just feeding the troll that is Cohen.
Again, the man has won!

The Pessimist wrote: It's the same reason I laugh at silly shows like Banzai.

That's the one with the shaking hands dude right?

By the way, when it comes to shows that involve ordinary people for comedic purposes, the short-lived Insomniac with Dave Attell reigns supreme.



Edited by Slartibartfast - July 30 2009 at 13:12