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Topic: Muse "The Resistance" Posted: September 30 2009 at 19:04
I still don't have it. There are so many new albums by bands that have impressed me in the past that I have to get stuff by. I will probably get it at some point, but I'm not rushing to my record store for it or anything...
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Posted: September 30 2009 at 17:28
I really don't like the album and struggle hard to find how people can say it's their most progressive.I agree they have progressed,but only to pop music.And as a whole album,it doesn't engage me.
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Posted: September 30 2009 at 12:43
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I know that for UK / US guys it's easy and normal to know who Dr. Who is and how important he's, what he meant and did, but in my country, this wonderful (from what I heard) TV show was never aired. I understand, that for most people, you don't have to say anything and they'll understand. But I don't, so if you can, please explain.
Sorry, missed this earlier. The Dr Who connection is purely in the music of the opening track of The Resistance, Uprising - the synth-line behind the disco-beat is borrowed straight from the Dr Who theme tune.
This tune was written by Ron Grainer, but brought to life by the brilliance of Delia Derbyshire in the BBC Radiophonic Workshop.
In 1972 Rupert Hine recorded a version with the actor playing the Doctor at the time, Jon Pertwee, this was released on Deep Purple's Purple label:
no reason for showing that video here other than the oblique Prog connection, but I once owned a 7" vinyl copy of that rare collectors item until one of my friends left it on the back seat of his car and it warped beyond recognition.
Matt Bellamy said that Uprising was "a heavy-rock take on Goldfrapp", referring I'm sure to this "Dr And The Medics" inspired Goldfrapp track:
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Posted: September 30 2009 at 12:04
It's not quite at OOS/Absolution standard but better than the inconsistent Black Holes, I think on that album they tried to explore too many different styles with no coherent theme. This album does that but it does have a coherent theme.
There aren't as many wow moments as hoped but Exogenesis, as someone else said, makes up for it.
And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good
I know that for UK / US guys it's easy and normal to know who Dr. Who is and how important he's, what he meant and did, but in my country, this wonderful (from what I heard) TV show was never aired. I understand, that for most people, you don't have to say anything and they'll understand. But I don't, so if you can, please explain.
As for Muse's music, I've tried it. I was hesitating if to do it, or not for few days. And finally, I did it. And reviewed. Thanks Dean, you've repelled my fears (I wonder if this word can be used in that way)
There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
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Posted: September 19 2009 at 10:27
I just picked this one up and I'm listening to it for the first time. It may take a couple listens before I decide if I like it or not because it is definitely different from their previous albums. I definitely hear the Queen influence. I'm seeing them in Dallas with U2 next month. I'm pretty excited about that.
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Posted: September 19 2009 at 05:36
MartyMcFly89 wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Their new album is EASILY their best and most progressive.
I was absolutely blown away! Never was the world's biggest Muse fan, but they're way up on my levels of appreciation now.
I haven't been listening their previous albums, nor the new one. But can I ask a question, is it possible to spoil anything what could I found good in them by listening their new one ? Everyone is saying, how their new is their best work to date. So can The Resistance overshadow "Showbiz" and others ? Is it better first listen these and finally, their newest ?
just asking.
The Resistance has overshadowed Showbiz in the Dr Who vs. Dr & The Medics laced opening bars of Uprising alone, but that does not distract from my opinion that Showbiz was/is an excellent, if slightly pretentious, Pop album. Black Holes and Revelations: The Resistance has topped that in spades by having the same three distinct 'flavours' running through it (Pop, Pomp and Symphonic Rock) far more successfully and cohesively.
Whether The Resistance can top Origins of Symmetry, which still has a freshness and vitality after eight years, or Absolution, with it's soaring "Muse" anthems and subtleties of craft and production, remains to be seen. What neither of those albums have is anything to equal The 'Exogenesis' Symphony (IMO).
There is an erratic and uneasy progression (verb not noun) in Muse from Origins through to The Resistance, where they take two steps forward, one step back and half-a-step sideways with every move - on Black Holes I got the distinct impression they were holding-back, even on 'Knights of Cydonia', and they are still guilty of that on The Resistance to some extent, though 'I Belong to You' and the 'Exogenesis' Symphony goes a long way to redeeming that.
So to attempt to answer your question- listen to The Resistance - if you like it, it will not spoil your listening pleasure of their earlier albums, if you don't you probably won't like their other albums either.
Their new album is EASILY their best and most progressive.
I was absolutely blown away! Never was the world's biggest Muse fan, but they're way up on my levels of appreciation now.
I haven't been listening their previous albums, nor the new one. But can I ask a question, is it possible to spoil anything what could I found good in them by listening their new one ? Everyone is saying, how their new is their best work to date. So can The Resistance overshadow "Showbiz" and others ? Is it better first listen these and finally, their newest ?
just asking.
There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
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Posted: September 19 2009 at 01:18
stonebeard wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Their new album is EASILY their best and most progressive.
I agree. The music is good to listen to and interesting, but a bit contrived. The lyrics often suck.
Up to this point, I agree. Somehow the lyrics have ruined this album for me. I have already expected something like that when they said that it should be "political", but not to this extent. Still, when I find it somewhere for 8,90€ here (like The Incident, by the way) I think I'll buy it.
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Posted: September 18 2009 at 23:46
I think "The Resistance" is their best album yet apart from Absolution, when you think how far they have come since Showbiz.(never liked that first album, rather messy) - i found the album the easiest to get used to and enjoyed the "Symphonic" section very much, but the novelty of the Queen impressions, though very convincing, will grate every time i hear it .. .
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 17:07
Listened to the album twice today and I've got to say, I'm quite disappointed in them. They seem to have lost that edge to their sound that I loved on OoS and Absolution. Everything up to and including Guiding Light doesnt do much for me, after that it picks up quite nicely but the damage is done. I think they needed more bombast this time.
Woohaa, I'm sold. Never been a fan of Muse, I've liked them in small portions once in a while, but now that I'm testing the new album from Spotify, I'm stunned. Guiding Light is the only song so far (only the Symphony to go) that hasn't been pretty damn great. Wonderful melodies throughout, interesting arrangements, clever guitar solos, all the stuff. Brilliant.
It grows on you, don't worry.
I've had parts of the album stuck in my head all day. It's damn brilliant.
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 14:13
listening to the whole album now.I'll be back with a better opinion but uprising still makes me wanna throw up I imagine Grannys dancing to this at a kids disco trying to cool.
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 14:09
Woohaa, I'm sold. Never been a fan of Muse, I've liked them in small portions once in a while, but now that I'm testing the new album from Spotify, I'm stunned. Guiding Light is the only song so far (only the Symphony to go) that hasn't been pretty damn great. Wonderful melodies throughout, interesting arrangements, clever guitar solos, all the stuff. Brilliant.
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 17:13
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Their new album is EASILY their best and most progressive.
I agree. The music is good to listen to and interesting, but a bit contrived. The lyrics often suck and I retain the comparison to Green Day's American Idiot is valid, but made only worse by this album coming 5 years after that one. Shameful. Still, Muse's best.
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:44
Octahedron is definitely my least favorite, but I liked it the first time around and it did a little growing. The compositions on The Resistance are definitely competant and stuff so maybe I need to adjust to the sound. We'll see. Usually, if an album is to be a favorite of mine, I'll like parts of an album the first time around and then it'll grow some after that. I can't remember a single thing I heard from The Resistance except the first track because I hear it on the radio at work every day.
Edited by Moatilliatta - September 12 2009 at 16:45
^Ah yes, I guess we are opposites here. Like I said, I'm going to give it another go in a week or so and see how I feel then.
Differences in taste, w00t.
That sounds like a good plan. It seems like you're feeling very similarly to how I felt about The Mars Volta's new album. It's still my least favorite, but I gave it some time to sink and I like it more than I used to.
Yep. Well, I got into Muse years ago because I loved their dynamic balance of alternative rock, pop, classical, queen-esque harmonies and such. But I think they lost control here and the bombastic side of the band took over. There isn't a whole lot of melody, and there isn't a whole lot of soul (at least I'm not hearing any). Glad that you're getting into it. Maybe you should go back and take a look at their album Origin of Symmetry sometime, too. Sometimes when I finally get into a band I can go to their past work and get more out of it then.
We like Muse for different reasons then, haha.
I like their earlier stuff too, it's just not on the same level to me. I really love the bombastic sound of the Resistance and I was extremely pleasantly surprised with how solid each one of the tracks was. Origin of Symmetry is a decent album, maybe I'll listen to that tonight.
Contrary to how you're feeling, I used to think their earlier albums were missing the soul from a few tracks (hence some inconsistency), but I found that the Resistance is oozing out soulful songwriting.
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Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:18
Yep. Well, I got into Muse years ago because I loved their dynamic balance of alternative rock, pop, classical, queen-esque harmonies and such. But I think they lost control here and the bombastic side of the band took over. There isn't a whole lot of melody, and there isn't a whole lot of soul (at least I'm not hearing any). Glad that you're getting into it. Maybe you should go back and take a look at their album Origin of Symmetry sometime, too. Sometimes when I finally get into a band I can go to their past work and get more out of it then.
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