Muse "The Resistance"
Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Other music related lounges
Forum Name: Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge
Forum Description: Discuss bands and albums classified as Proto-Prog and Prog-Related
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59278
Printed Date: January 29 2025 at 22:35
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Muse "The Resistance"
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Subject: Muse "The Resistance"
Date Posted: July 04 2009 at 17:38
|
I read this article on NME disclosing the tracklist of the new Muse album, due to be released on September 14: http://www.nme.com/news/nme/45845 What surprised me was this: The album, http://www.nme.com/news/muse/45413 - due for release on September 14 , will contain 11 tracks, including a three-part symphony under the title 'Exogenesis'. Is that prog or what?  We may witness the arise of a new, awesome, prog band.  |
Replies:
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 04 2009 at 19:21
|
I prefer poppy Muse like Time Is Running Out, but I'm still pretty excited for this. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: SilverEclipse
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 18:06
|
Awesome. Muse is a really cool band. Wonder if they can tackle this successfully. ------------- "and if the band your in starts playing different tunes, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon" |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 18:15
|
If it's really political, it will be for the worse. I will not shun away from Green Day comparisons, thematically.
------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Conor Fynes
Date Posted: July 08 2009 at 19:14
| I've sorta become distanced with them, but hopefully their new album will bring me back =D |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 09 2009 at 02:12
^ Al you need is to attend a nice Muse show  I'm planning to do that in November, myself. |
Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: July 23 2009 at 05:42
|
Ah ah ah, they've gone Queen! First Muse song I like... ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: July 23 2009 at 06:00
|
This is prog! I love USOEA. ------------- http://www.formspring.me/Aragorn224" rel="nofollow - Trendsetter win! The search for nonexistent perfection. |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: July 23 2009 at 10:39
Uh oh, this could mean we might have to move another non-prog band to Crossover like we did with Coheed. 
 ------------- 
|
Posted By: The Runaway
Date Posted: July 23 2009 at 11:02
|
Muse can definitely mean prog. ------------- http://www.formspring.me/Aragorn224" rel="nofollow - Trendsetter win! The search for nonexistent perfection. |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: July 24 2009 at 23:31
Coheed and Cambria are in no way prog... Neither is MUSE. I like to think of these bands as "Slightly experimental alt. rock" ------------- 
|
topofsm wrote:Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: July 24 2009 at 23:43
I have been following Muse with some interest from their early days. I believe that each release is a vast improvement on the prior releases. This new one sounds very interesting and I look forward to its general release. Could this be their progiest effort yet? Fingers crossed ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: July 24 2009 at 23:58
I'm confused . . . have they not always been Prog, at least a little? |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: July 24 2009 at 23:59
|
PA is the one of the only places that don't consider Muse progressive (check out last.fm & kerrang etc) But I agree with the PA guys with prog related.But I sure hope they will venture into it soon.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
|
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 00:04
I always considered them a slightly poppier 'Space-Rock', or at least Xover.  |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 15:15
Of course they were - I was just saying that it's time for them to become a full-blown prog band.  |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 15:43
Ah, I see. Thanks for clarifying.  |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 16:33
Cross over would be a good one.There's so many great examples on Origin of symmetry but every time I feel I Should mention it they release pop singles.Anyhow one of the best bands I've seen live. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
|
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 19:49
|
I only have Origin of Symmetry, and I do agree that it has more prog moments than I expected based on the singles I've heard from them. The prominence of the keyboards and the arpeggios and ostinatos, a couple of odd times in a couple tracks, Bellamy's incredible range...
Of course, I still think prog-related is a good fit for them. That's just me. -------------
|
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: July 25 2009 at 19:52
|
I can only think they would be moved if the majority of the albums were released were progressive.Giving a clear sign of there musical tendencies.Maybe in ten years time,huh?
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
|
Posted By: Badabing666
Date Posted: September 05 2009 at 16:01
|
Saw them perform in their home town last night where they played a couple of tracks off the new album. Seems to me like their style is continuing to evolve but they are not yet full blown prog. Not that it matters overly as they were in damn fine form and did a fantastic set. ------------- 
|
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: September 08 2009 at 05:39
I've heard four tracks so far and I'm really not diggin in tbh.Obviously it's to soon to tell,perhaps they will grow but this is perhaps their worst. 
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
|
Posted By: Anguiad
Date Posted: September 09 2009 at 11:04
|
What matters with Muse is how they manage to combine many music genres into one. Good thing they can't be classified in only one category IMO. Still, I hope they stop doing starlighted tracks and continue to expand their progressive vein...pretty much what everyone on this site hopes for. ------------- "Tis your birth and faith that wrong you...not I." |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 14:30
|
Their new album is EASILY their best and most progressive. I was absolutely blown away! Never was the world's biggest Muse fan, but they're way up on my levels of appreciation now. ------------- 
|
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 14:47
|
The recent interview with a Finnish rock mag Soundi delved into this Muse & Prog question. Basically they know nothing about prog (they were asked about Selling England, two of them didn't know the album except one of them by name, the third had bought it for his mom as a gift) and don't view themselves as a prog band, but "if prog means bands who test their limits and try new stuff, then why not. If that's how it is, then I'm happy to be in a prog band" and "while making music we aim for maximum content and depth. I like to think there's lots of everything in our music and that you can't figure it all out on one listen. You can listen to our records like records were listened to in the 70s". ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
|
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 15:31
It's probably their most progressive, but I thought it was pretty bad. Their knack for great melodies is missing almost entirely. I just hear a completely overblown sound mass. I'm going to let it rest and listen again next week but I was so unimpressed with it that I couldn't get passed the first movement of that "symphony." I don't know how I made it that far, really. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph  
|
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 15:48
Weird how people see it differently. I've noticed that it's really splitting Muse fans down the line though. My favorite album before this new one was Black Holes, but I still thought they had plenty of room to improve on their sound. This album was exactly a step in the right direction, in my opinion. I just heard the album for the first time yesterday and I'm on my 6th listen.  -------------
|
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:18
|
Yep. Well, I got into Muse years ago because I loved their dynamic balance of alternative rock, pop, classical, queen-esque harmonies and such. But I think they lost control here and the bombastic side of the band took over. There isn't a whole lot of melody, and there isn't a whole lot of soul (at least I'm not hearing any). Glad that you're getting into it. Maybe you should go back and take a look at their album Origin of Symmetry sometime, too. Sometimes when I finally get into a band I can go to their past work and get more out of it then. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
|
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:22
We like Muse for different reasons then, haha. I like their earlier stuff too, it's just not on the same level to me. I really love the bombastic sound of the Resistance and I was extremely pleasantly surprised with how solid each one of the tracks was. Origin of Symmetry is a decent album, maybe I'll listen to that tonight. Contrary to how you're feeling, I used to think their earlier albums were missing the soul from a few tracks (hence some inconsistency), but I found that the Resistance is oozing out soulful songwriting. -------------
|
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:31
|
^Ah yes, I guess we are opposites here. Like I said, I'm going to give it another go in a week or so and see how I feel then. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
|
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:33
Differences in taste, w00t. That sounds like a good plan. It seems like you're feeling very similarly to how I felt about The Mars Volta's new album. It's still my least favorite, but I gave it some time to sink and I like it more than I used to. -------------
|
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 16:44
|
Octahedron is definitely my least favorite, but I liked it the first time around and it did a little growing. The compositions on The Resistance are definitely competant and stuff so maybe I need to adjust to the sound. We'll see. Usually, if an album is to be a favorite of mine, I'll like parts of an album the first time around and then it'll grow some after that. I can't remember a single thing I heard from The Resistance except the first track because I hear it on the radio at work every day. ------------- www.last.fm/user/ThisCenotaph
|
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 12 2009 at 17:13
I agree. The music is good to listen to and interesting, but a bit contrived. The lyrics often suck and I retain the comparison to Green Day's American Idiot is valid, but made only worse by this album coming 5 years after that one. Shameful. Still, Muse's best. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 14:09
|
Woohaa, I'm sold. Never been a fan of Muse, I've liked them in small portions once in a while, but now that I'm testing the new album from Spotify, I'm stunned. Guiding Light is the only song so far (only the Symphony to go) that hasn't been pretty damn great. Wonderful melodies throughout, interesting arrangements, clever guitar solos, all the stuff. Brilliant.
------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA!
|
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 14:13
|
listening to the whole album now.I'll be back with a better opinion but uprising still makes me wanna throw up I imagine Grannys dancing to this at a kids disco trying to cool. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
|
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 14:47
It grows on you, don't worry. I've had parts of the album stuck in my head all day. It's damn brilliant. -------------
|
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 14 2009 at 17:07
|
Listened to the album twice today and I've got to say, I'm quite disappointed in them. They seem to have lost that edge to their sound that I loved on OoS and Absolution. Everything up to and including Guiding Light doesnt do much for me, after that it picks up quite nicely but the damage is done. I think they needed more bombast this time. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
|
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: September 18 2009 at 23:46
I think "The Resistance" is their best album yet apart from Absolution, when you think how far they have come since Showbiz.(never liked that first album, rather messy) - i found the album the easiest to get used to and enjoyed the "Symphonic" section very much, but the novelty of the Queen impressions, though very convincing, will grate every time i hear it .. . 
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24617 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24617
-------------  Prog Archives Tour Van 
|
Posted By: Luke. J
Date Posted: September 19 2009 at 01:18
Up to this point, I agree. Somehow the lyrics have ruined this album for me. I have already expected something like that when they said that it should be "political", but not to this extent. Still, when I find it somewhere for 8,90€ here (like The Incident, by the way) I think I'll buy it. |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: September 19 2009 at 02:39
I haven't been listening their previous albums, nor the new one. But can I ask a question, is it possible to spoil anything what could I found good in them by listening their new one ? Everyone is saying, how their new is their best work to date. So can The Resistance overshadow "Showbiz" and others ? Is it better first listen these and finally, their newest ? just asking. ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 19 2009 at 05:36
The Resistance has overshadowed Showbiz in the Dr Who vs. Dr & The Medics laced opening bars of Uprising alone, but that does not distract from my opinion that Showbiz was/is an excellent, if slightly pretentious, Pop album. Black Holes and Revelations: The Resistance has topped that in spades by having the same three distinct 'flavours' running through it (Pop, Pomp and Symphonic Rock) far more successfully and cohesively.
Whether The Resistance can top Origins of Symmetry, which still has a freshness and vitality after eight years, or Absolution, with it's soaring "Muse" anthems and subtleties of craft and production, remains to be seen. What neither of those albums have is anything to equal The 'Exogenesis' Symphony (IMO).
There is an erratic and uneasy progression (verb not noun) in Muse from Origins through to The Resistance, where they take two steps forward, one step back and half-a-step sideways with every move - on Black Holes I got the distinct impression they were holding-back, even on 'Knights of Cydonia', and they are still guilty of that on The Resistance to some extent, though 'I Belong to You' and the 'Exogenesis' Symphony goes a long way to redeeming that.
So to attempt to answer your question- listen to The Resistance - if you like it, it will not spoil your listening pleasure of their earlier albums, if you don't you probably won't like their other albums either. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Courtesy Flush
Date Posted: September 19 2009 at 10:27
| I just picked this one up and I'm listening to it for the first time. It may take a couple listens before I decide if I like it or not because it is definitely different from their previous albums. I definitely hear the Queen influence. I'm seeing them in Dallas with U2 next month. I'm pretty excited about that. |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: September 20 2009 at 13:51
|
I know that for UK / US guys it's easy and normal to know who Dr. Who is and how important he's, what he meant and did, but in my country, this wonderful (from what I heard) TV show was never aired. I understand, that for most people, you don't have to say anything and they'll understand. But I don't, so if you can, please explain. As for Muse's music, I've tried it. I was hesitating if to do it, or not for few days. And finally, I did it. And reviewed. Thanks Dean, you've repelled my fears (I wonder if this word can be used in that way) ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
Posted By: Citizen Erased
Date Posted: September 30 2009 at 12:04
|
It's not quite at OOS/Absolution standard but better than the inconsistent Black Holes, I think on that album they tried to explore too many different styles with no coherent theme. This album does that but it does have a coherent theme. There aren't as many wow moments as hoped but Exogenesis, as someone else said, makes up for it. ------------- And lo, the mighty riffage was played and it was good 
<a href="www.last.fm/user/jonzo67" targe |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 30 2009 at 12:43
Sorry, missed this earlier. The Dr Who connection is purely in the music of the opening track of The Resistance, Uprising - the synth-line behind the disco-beat is borrowed straight from the Dr Who theme tune.
This tune was written by Ron Grainer, but brought to life by the brilliance of Delia Derbyshire in the BBC Radiophonic Workshop.
In 1972 Rupert Hine recorded a version with the actor playing the Doctor at the time, Jon Pertwee, this was released on Deep Purple's Purple label:
no reason for showing that video here other than the oblique Prog connection, but I once owned a 7" vinyl copy of that rare collectors item until one of my friends left it on the back seat of his car and it warped beyond recognition.
Matt Bellamy said that Uprising was "a heavy-rock take on Goldfrapp", referring I'm sure to this "Dr And The Medics" inspired Goldfrapp track:
However, I think it's more like this:
simples ------------- What? |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: September 30 2009 at 17:28
|
I really don't like the album and struggle hard to find how people can say it's their most progressive.I agree they have progressed,but only to pop music.And as a whole album,it doesn't engage me. Origin & Showbiz anytime ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
|
Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: September 30 2009 at 19:04
|
I still don't have it. There are so many new albums by bands that have impressed me in the past that I have to get stuff by. I will probably get it at some point, but I'm not rushing to my record store for it or anything...
------------- 
Check out my YouTube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/demiseoftime |