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A B Negative
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Topic: Punk Rock Posted: July 01 2009 at 02:02 |
I've seen the Buzzcocks a couple of times. Once was great, the other not quite (Diggle's guitar was too loud and I think he'd been drinking...).
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 11:43 |
CPicard wrote:
Strange. I always heard good thing about the Buzzcocks. I guess the sound was bad, because they are from anything noisy on their records, rather "poppy".
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Yea, the Buzzcocks were pretty good in their day.
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A B Negative
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 10:55 |
floydispink wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
floydispink wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
floydispink wrote:
I've never been against punk or disliked it, but yesterday I was at Parkpop (Europe's biggest free festival) in The Netherlands, and the Buzzcocks were performing. Now I know why so many people dislike punk, it was just terrible, the guitar player screwed up a solo of two notes and the music sounded like nothing more than just noise.
I do like the proto-punk of the Stooges though.
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Not the solo on Boredom by any chance? |
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Yes, it was |
That's what it's meant to sound like!
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Yes, I know the solo is supposed to consist of only 2 notes, but he failed at playing those 2 notes without any mistake. |
That appeals to my warped sense of humour.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 05:47 |
A B Negative wrote:
floydispink wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
floydispink wrote:
I've never been against punk or disliked it, but yesterday I was at Parkpop (Europe's biggest free festival) in The Netherlands, and the Buzzcocks were performing. Now I know why so many people dislike punk, it was just terrible, the guitar player screwed up a solo of two notes and the music sounded like nothing more than just noise.
I do like the proto-punk of the Stooges though.
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Not the solo on Boredom by any chance? |
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Yes, it was |
That's what it's meant to sound like!
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Yes, I know the solo is supposed to consist of only 2 notes, but he failed at playing those 2 notes without any mistake.
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A B Negative
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 02:02 |
floydispink wrote:
akamaisondufromage wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
floydispink wrote:
I've never been against punk or disliked it, but yesterday I was at Parkpop (Europe's biggest free festival) in The Netherlands, and the Buzzcocks were performing. Now I know why so many people dislike punk, it was just terrible, the guitar player screwed up a solo of two notes and the music sounded like nothing more than just noise.
I do like the proto-punk of the Stooges though.
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Not the solo on Boredom by any chance? |
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Yes, it was |
That's what it's meant to sound like!
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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CPicard
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 12:40 |
Strange. I always heard good thing about the Buzzcocks. I guess the sound was bad, because they are from anything noisy on their records, rather "poppy".
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:53 |
akamaisondufromage wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
floydispink wrote:
I've never been against punk or disliked it, but yesterday I was at Parkpop (Europe's biggest free festival) in The Netherlands, and the Buzzcocks were performing. Now I know why so many people dislike punk, it was just terrible, the guitar player screwed up a solo of two notes and the music sounded like nothing more than just noise.
I do like the proto-punk of the Stooges though.
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Not the solo on Boredom by any chance? |
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Yes, it was
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:51 |
A B Negative wrote:
floydispink wrote:
I've never been against punk or disliked it, but yesterday I was at Parkpop (Europe's biggest free festival) in The Netherlands, and the Buzzcocks were performing. Now I know why so many people dislike punk, it was just terrible, the guitar player screwed up a solo of two notes and the music sounded like nothing more than just noise.
I do like the proto-punk of the Stooges though.
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Not the solo on Boredom by any chance? |
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Help me I'm falling!
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A B Negative
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:48 |
floydispink wrote:
I've never been against punk or disliked it, but yesterday I was at Parkpop (Europe's biggest free festival) in The Netherlands, and the Buzzcocks were performing. Now I know why so many people dislike punk, it was just terrible, the guitar player screwed up a solo of two notes and the music sounded like nothing more than just noise.
I do like the proto-punk of the Stooges though.
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Not the solo on Boredom by any chance?
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 08:55 |
I've never been against punk or disliked it, but yesterday I was at Parkpop (Europe's biggest free festival) in The Netherlands, and the Buzzcocks were performing. Now I know why so many people dislike punk, it was just terrible, the guitar player screwed up a solo of two notes and the music sounded like nothing more than just noise. I do like the proto-punk of the Stooges though.
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A B Negative
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 06:08 |
progvortex wrote:
The only punk bands I can tolerate are Bad Religion and Toy Dolls. |
To me, they're very different. What do you get from them that you don't get from other punk bands?
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: June 27 2009 at 11:42 |
progvortex wrote:
The only punk bands I can tolerate are Bad Religion and Toy Dolls. |
'Toy Dolls' Oh my sainted aunt!
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Help me I'm falling!
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markosherrera
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:30 |
I only like the album fresh fruit for rotten vegetables ,or something similar ,of Dead Kennedys
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Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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progvortex
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 13:49 |
The only punk bands I can tolerate are Bad Religion and Toy Dolls.
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Life is like a beanstalk... isn't it?
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Captain Capricorn
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Posted: June 19 2009 at 15:50 |
derektrainwreck wrote:
who doesnt like punk!
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...depends on what you mean by punk. I personally love bands like Television, Richard Hell & the Voidoids, Elvis Costello's work with The Attractions, Talking Heads, etc., but I can do without The Ramones, The New York Dolls, & The Sex Pistols
Edited by Captain Capricorn - June 19 2009 at 15:53
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derektrainwreck
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Posted: June 19 2009 at 15:31 |
who doesnt like punk!
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LandofLein
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Posted: June 18 2009 at 20:20 |
"If it wasn't for all that stuff. Would you STILL hate the Sex Pistols?"
If it wasn't for all that stuff, they wouldn't exist (or at least they would just be regular drug addicts that no one would care about)
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moshkito
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Posted: June 18 2009 at 12:03 |
Hi,
Unlike Hannah Montana, who is a Disney creation designed to make money and has nothing to do with the talent and creativity of the girl herself ... (who now has to fight to get her own identity!) ... things like The Sex Pistols are a totally different ball game ...
First of all ... they are not about the music ... they are about the scene and some people's reaction to it.
Rock music had grown away from the AM hit stations and the BBC had opened up the gates and learned its lessons in the late 60's when they could have made major money on all those bands, but their control of the masses and what it listened to ... changed dramatically.
In the 60's what helped a lot of music and other things get heard in Europe was done via a lot of Pirate radio ... and the Kinks, Beatles and Rolling Stones and many others owe a lot to those folks ... and eventually they broke through ... but it was still controlled ... harshly ... and there are many stories about Elvis and the Coronel if you don't believe me.
The 70's with FM radio in America helped break the rest ... however it was only to last a couple of years before it became just another AM station with hipper music ... well it didn't exactly have a top ten, but it had the Blue Dots and Red Dots and Green Dots ... aa different form of top ten ... but at least you played Led Zeppelin and Who and Rolling Stones and Beatle/s every hour!
By the time the Sex Pistols came up, it was a serious rejection process and I almost like to say that it was well orchestrated by a producer ... that knew he could break through if he could shake someone's jacket some ... and that he did! He is the first person to tell you that there might not be enough music in there ... but there is one thing in there that you can not find in some music at all ... even classical music and its history ... and it's pure, unadulterated heart ... and fully felt and jumped and letting you know ... I'm here ... I'm a person ... and I deserve attention ... just like anyone else ... and not a single person could ever sit here and honestly say ... he wasn't right.
The NY Dolls and some of the NY punk scene, was not the same ... for my ears, even Iggy and the Stooges did not have much to what they were doing other than the presentation of their material ... by comparison the lyrics in most of the NY Dolls stuff was poor and not much to talk to mom about, or even over a drink or even over a glass of wine ... gotta be kidding me! And it was easy to let that scene pass by ...
I always thought that the London scene was a bit different ... I think they knew that there were no artistic anything to worry about and to hope for and aspire to ... and they did what is left ... the pure and raw emotion ... for all intents and purposes Iggy had it in his performance, but I tend to suggest that his band had no idea ... they just thought they had a heck of leading man in the band!
It's a progression in music ... a very valid expression that led to what today we call metal in a lot of ways ... but sadly, in general scenes that are reactionary tend to implode ... and sometimes blow up their own scene into oblivion ... I personally think that sometimes you have to scream to get your parent's or girlfriend's (or boyfriend's) attention ... but a lot of us think that's not necessary ... but more often than not it is.
The equivalent in England to this in theater was in the 50's with the group known as the "angry young men" ... and it tells you how much more respect people have for theater (then) that they did not have for music ... most of these people never got into film until at least 10 years later, but the punk scene in London, just about killed itself ... senselessly .... but then, I don't think that the people around them were honorable enough to help them either!
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Lost Follower
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Posted: June 18 2009 at 05:00 |
A B Negative wrote:
Lost Follower wrote:
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
Strummer was a closet fan of Yes.
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You are clinically insane.
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Keith Levene (from the original Clash line-up, later of Public Image Limited) was a fan of Steve Howe and even worked as a roadie for Yes. |
He did indeed and is still a fan(unbelieveabley) , however, there was more chance of Strummer cutting his left gonad off with a rusty hacksaw than being a 'closet' fan of Yes.
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~Jump you f**ker jump~
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A B Negative
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Posted: June 18 2009 at 04:52 |
Lost Follower wrote:
Cheesecakemouse wrote:
Strummer was a closet fan of Yes.
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You are clinically insane.
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Keith Levene (from the original Clash line-up, later of Public Image Limited) was a fan of Steve Howe and even worked as a roadie for Yes.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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