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    Posted: February 06 2009 at 19:00
LOL yes you are true ... i have forgotten to cut this LOLLOL and it s not important already Wink i couldnt find this picture (already i have got this LP i couldnt fint it too i think it is with my brother) so i have took a photograph from this video for show the writing LOL




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^ It seems you've inserted a picture instead of video in your post. At least it does not play. Smile

And, Dervisan, look at my nickname - it's not so important for me is it prog or not if the music is good. Wink
Though it's important for the site.
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i think someone is not agree with you Wink


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Very nice songs, though I don't see prog here.
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i have to talk about "HARDAL" but at first i want to give some examples ;  it s funny they are not in this web page too...funny only...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Zz1fW1ERE&feature=related  (Bir yagmur masalı)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZS01SR8It0&feature=related  (ne kadar zaman gecti)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TG78LTVfGc&feature=related  (unuttum)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU-QD4YJs5s&feature=related  (gece vakti gitar çalmak)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRJYocCJvrQ&feature=related   (bırak beni)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WpjjYuCBu8&feature=related   (leyla)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt6YRGeEvGc&feature=related (birgün maviyi birgün yeşili)

but whatever..i can talk about them later.. because there is a lot of masters before them Smile


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and i have to said that the manager of them was ; Cem Karaca

2 songs from BUNALIMLAR ;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8YjKsBDC4 (Başak Saclım)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKvo3OGuww  (Bunalım)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMi_szrZ-BQ&feature=related   (Yeter Artık Kadın)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvO20Ar9H8g&feature=related  (Taş var Köpek Yok)



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Actually I thought they formed Bunalim after Yeralti Dörtlüsü... or maybe for some time both bands co-existed?

I agree about Ahmet Güvenç, he's probably the greatest name on bass (since I don't know any other; and Taner Öngür is certainly not up to his league Tongue), but there's no such thing as "Kurtalan Ekspresi" since mid '80's Big smile... Baris Manco switched to one-man band (plus an occasional guitar & some background vocals every now and then) right after Degmesin Yagli Boya, and Kurtalan played only in concerts... After Baris's death, we lost them too... I don't know about their live performances, though... I only have a recent album made by Ekspres, and it's totally sh*t....
Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Originally posted by Dervisan Dervisan wrote:

 
this writing was written by my dear progressive pschedelic lover friend gerald (look; http://progressive.homestead.com/GRUP_BUNALIM.html )  

It was among first search results when I typed "Bunalim" in Google.
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ahmet güvenç is still working with Kurtalan Ekspresi as a bass guitarist (he is still the biggest name of bass in turkey ) Big smile

aydın ayet çakuş is still working with "Fear Nature" in USA  as a guitarist and vocalist 
  look ;  ( http://www.fearnature.com  ) 

hüseyin sultanoğlu is in australia and cant play his drums because of his illness from his legs Unhappy
nihat örerel is still living in austalia and i dont know what he is doing Shocked 


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i know the 45rpm s of them but i really dont know their CD s ... and it s not important because i have all songs from them... and i never loose them Big smile  it s good, if they have got a CD set for the people that want to know turkish pschedelic.. it s good...

this writing was written by my dear progressive pschedelic lover friend gerald (look; http://progressive.homestead.com/GRUP_BUNALIM.html )  

"bunalım" means "depression" in turkish.. this band is really important for turkish rock music because this band was really a factory of progressive and pschedelic musicians... this band was first station of them all... ahmet güvenç (barış manço- kurtalan ekspresi) hüseyin sultanoğlu(cem karaca-dervişan) nihat örerel and aydın çakuş ( erkin koray-yeraltı dörtlüsü)  these bands are all heroes of turkish rock music... so they were from Bunalımlar ... becuase of that bunalımlar is really important for all turkish progressive pschedelic rock lover Wink 




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^ Perhaps it was not released in Turkey, but BUNALIM have a CD, released by German label:


I know the band never had an album, only singles. CD contains 12 songs from 1970-72.
There are short bio (in English) and photos in the booklet, including the nude picture you've posted.

Here is the announcement from record label (http://www.psychedelic-music.com/psychedelic1.html):
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BUNALIM - Same, Turkey 1969/1972 (SHADOKS 078)
CD: in jewelbox.
One of the most amazing Turkish music ever recorded, wild, raw and with fuzz guitar all over. Still even for most Turkish collector a kept secret. BUNALIM released on 6 singles which are incredible rare. They never did a whole album. Produced by Cem Karaca. They say about the band: "God, they were crazy!  Running all nude down the Istiklal Street, psychedelic light shows, crazy paintings all over the stage wall and screaming of "LSD!  LSD!" in their live shows". 


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yeah it s true .. did you wee my "Cem Karaca" subject and small biography in new bands forum??

ok lets know Cem Karaca at first Wink


BUNALIMLAR ???? CD???? thay havent got any CD .. maybe you take them from a friend of yours... Big smile i love bunalımlar too ... they are really crazy ... and do you know they always scream like  "LSD, LSD" in concerts  and they like to play their instrument naked LOLLOL  yes they were really crazy...really...  and bunalımlar is not here... it s really funny...








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Hi, Dervisan!

I think it's good to have Turkish prog here. I don't know much about it, the only CD I have is BUNALIM and I like it a lot. I also know Live Journal user from Russia who is deep into Turkish music (including rock). So there is a lot of things to discover.
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i am writing Dervisan now in "Suggest New Bands and Artists" i am on the most wonderful part ;  "yoksulluk kader olamaz" LP....



and there is 3 different mind about the first anatolian rock song; 1) tülay german -burçak tarlası 2)moğollar-dağ ve çocuk  3)moğollar-garip çoban... it s not important but i prefer progressive one Wink garip çoban...

because i really hate "anatolian rock" name... i think this period include prog folk or psche folk character but now you can see everyone say "i am an anatolian rocker" so if it s not based with prog or psch it can be a only sh*t LOL "lümpen baba onlar lümpen"... progressive pschedelic tabanı olmayan ve anadolurock oldugunu iddia edenler yozdur..ve "kahrolsun yoz müzik" biliyosun işte Wink yıllarca kullandım dahada kullanmıyorum... anatolian progressive pschedelic ethnical rock... allahım fransızı biliyomus söylemiş Big smile



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Merhaba arkadaş Smile
There's much more to Anatolian Rock (the "original" Tongue) than just "the anatolian tradtional music and the modern rock sounds"... for instance, classical music (which is obvious in Cem Karaca's early recordings with Ferdy Klein & Werner Müller) and modern attempts at electronic music (Baris Manco and his 2023 - 2024 - 2025 trilogy)
and I believe calling "Garip Coban" the first turkish progressive song will be unfair to a couple of other tracks, maybe some from the great Baris Manco, but specifically "Dag ve Cocuk", which itself came just before this one, by the same "Mogollar"

There's a lot to write in this issue, anyway! That is, "bu pilav daha çok su kaldırır Wink"

(PS for the uninitiated: I'm a big fan of all the bands/artists Dervisan mentioned, with the possible exception of Bunalim. I've been trying to promote some of those acts in progarchives for some time; well, at least half-heartedly anyway Big smile)
Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret:
Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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i can say that turkish progressive pschedelic rock was nourished from the anatolian tradational music and the modern rock sounds .. that you can hear they have used the tradational turkish instruments in the songs... it s the difference of turkish psch and prog ...

i can generally say that ; cem karaca is the biggest name of progressive , erkin koray is the biggest name of pschedelic... when you listen them you can understand it easyly... Smile
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replikas is a young band or turkish pschedelic rock .. if you want some young names i can say ; babazula, anima, çamur, çilekeş, düş sokağı sakinleri, kurban, pilli bebek, siya siya bend....  they are really good underground young bands of turkey... and i really like that you know replikas Smile

BUT..... their music is all based from the masters of turkish progressive pschedelic ethnical rock... who are they???   (i will tell these names more detailed later because they have a lot of bands and details because they have done really different music with all bands) i will send some links and you can see some examples of them -i think it s more easy to listen from youtube- i will give you some rapidshare links too Wink


CEM KARACA (APAŞLAR,KARDAŞLAR, DERVİŞAN, EDİRDAHAN)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcL4XFy1Or8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-V5z_bxC8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGpYYyGOkI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4PmEQdYpQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1LsnkRPcRE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK1LF5i75X8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6etjc3MFo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbwONIty-ws

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwsTp_-7Z4M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLUgj_j0J28

BARIŞ MANÇO / KURTALAN EKSPRESİ (KAYGISIZLAR,LES MİSTİGRİS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWb1HUZRW20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IlK4JdC4bs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEk0iRySITU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlunJJ7D-R4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hueHHwO0hcU&feature=related


MOĞOLLAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf64JfCmGxI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9PiDVslvIg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vdDuKiIBY


ERKİN KORAY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfTDE-wes0U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWIE1ZHsXpQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EraYuHVmcbw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvdF2l1r0kw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6vZNBvLhkU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-szpE6TWGTQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yieQmuYMZnE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e6o-uuoDsQ&feature=related

3 HÜREL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVL-7vbmEaU&feature=PlayList&p=393768DAEC57E14B&playnext=1&index=24

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q5DYUGPQTw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH09FyqCMWw&feature=related

EDİP AKBAYRAM - DOSTLAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1U8jvgTYKY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ytd5b9iSM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shiiVglAzlo&feature=related

FİKRET KIZILOK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L3QDgusWto

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDU0ER8Cae8

BUNALIMLAR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8YjKsBDC4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKvo3OGuww

ERSEN - DADAŞLAR (MOĞOLLAR-KARDAŞLAR)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7gbS5gP398

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xUjG1SlWKk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Q8rzX8RI0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vdDuKiIBY




ANATOLİAN PROGRESSİVE PSCHEDELİC ETHNİCAL ROCK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPcuqUgm3ds&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbWkDXRXO6Y&feature=related




so you can think  something about anatolian progressive pschedelic ethnical rock... and the lyrics was really important in this songs.. i will try to translate them too ...if you want a translate of a song please say it to me... Smile 

and there is a lot of songs that i couldnt find youtube... i will upload them to rapid or youtube and send them...

I THİNK THERE IS A LOT OF THING TO TELL YOU ABOUT TURKISH PROGRESSIVE Big smile





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Hi Dervisan! I'm only aware of Replikas, which is excellent and has a page on ProgArchives. What other turkish bands would you recommend?
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thank you cacho Smile

so the language is a instrument of connection and we can connect with eachother that i can see Tongue

and i have just learn that i have to reply messages for show my answer LOL so other guys couldnt see my answers i think..
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Hi! Welcome to PA! Your english is very understandable, so don't worry about it.

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