hi everyone :) turkish prog lover is here :D
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Topic: hi everyone :) turkish prog lover is here :D
Posted By: Dervisan
Subject: hi everyone :) turkish prog lover is here :D
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 18:42
hi all :)
that you can see i am a lover of turkish progressive pschedelic ethnical rock (ethnical because turkish progressive rock used the anatolians tradational musics and enstruments with modern rock melodies and rock enstruments generally) ..
i will try to show some examples about turkish prog rock...
accept my respects to all .. sharing is beautiful but sharing the feeling are really wonderful ..
i will be here always and i know that i will learn a lot of things from you ... and absolutely you will learn about turkish progressive rock from me... if i can help you i will be really happy ;)
see you soon ;) i have to sleep now :D :D (and sorry about my english, if you can understand there is no problem :D )
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 18:54
Welcome!
You'll find plenty of music to widen your horizons, trust me. Turkish Prog sounds intriguing though.
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 19:07
Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 19:09
thanx movingpictures07
it s the final aim already .. so i am here for widen our horizons ... so life is like that .. isnt it? :) yes turkish progressive is really crazy music ... did you hear the PS3 s advertisement music????? this music is the first progressive song of turkey .. everything is turned from beatnic to progressice pschedelic with this song ... ( look; garip çoban / MOĞOLLAR ) watch it ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydW6D_NLfvc
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 19:10
hey Hughes hi
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 19:15
Hi! Welcome to PA! Your english is very understandable, so don't worry about it.
Hope you have a great time here!
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: January 30 2009 at 19:40
thank you cacho
so the language is a instrument of connection and we can connect with eachother that i can see
and i have just learn that i have to reply messages for show my answer so other guys couldnt see my answers i think..
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: January 31 2009 at 05:05
Hi Dervisan! I'm only aware of Replikas, which is excellent and has a page on ProgArchives. What other turkish bands would you recommend?
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: January 31 2009 at 05:45
replikas is a young band or turkish pschedelic rock .. if you want some young names i can say ; babazula, anima, çamur, çilekeş, düş sokağı sakinleri, kurban, pilli bebek, siya siya bend.... they are really good underground young bands of turkey... and i really like that you know replikas
BUT..... their music is all based from the masters of turkish progressive pschedelic ethnical rock... who are they??? (i will tell these names more detailed later because they have a lot of bands and details because they have done really different music with all bands) i will send some links and you can see some examples of them -i think it s more easy to listen from youtube- i will give you some rapidshare links too
CEM KARACA (APAŞLAR,KARDAŞLAR, DERVİŞAN, EDİRDAHAN)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcL4XFy1Or8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcL4XFy1Or8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-V5z_bxC8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw-V5z_bxC8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGpYYyGOkI&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtGpYYyGOkI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4PmEQdYpQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX4PmEQdYpQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1LsnkRPcRE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1LsnkRPcRE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK1LF5i75X8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK1LF5i75X8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6etjc3MFo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6etjc3MFo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbwONIty-ws - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbwONIty-ws
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwsTp_-7Z4M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwsTp_-7Z4M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLUgj_j0J28 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLUgj_j0J28
BARIŞ MANÇO / KURTALAN EKSPRESİ (KAYGISIZLAR,LES MİSTİGRİS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWb1HUZRW20 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWb1HUZRW20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IlK4JdC4bs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IlK4JdC4bs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEk0iRySITU&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEk0iRySITU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlunJJ7D-R4&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlunJJ7D-R4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hueHHwO0hcU&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hueHHwO0hcU&feature=related
MOĞOLLAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf64JfCmGxI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf64JfCmGxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9PiDVslvIg&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9PiDVslvIg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vdDuKiIBY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vdDuKiIBY
ERKİN KORAY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfTDE-wes0U - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfTDE-wes0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWIE1ZHsXpQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWIE1ZHsXpQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EraYuHVmcbw&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EraYuHVmcbw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvdF2l1r0kw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvdF2l1r0kw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6vZNBvLhkU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6vZNBvLhkU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-szpE6TWGTQ&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-szpE6TWGTQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yieQmuYMZnE&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yieQmuYMZnE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e6o-uuoDsQ&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e6o-uuoDsQ&feature=related
3 HÜREL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVL-7vbmEaU&feature=PlayList&p=393768DAEC57E14B&playnext=1&index=24 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVL-7vbmEaU&feature=PlayList&p=393768DAEC57E14B&playnext=1&index=24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q5DYUGPQTw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q5DYUGPQTw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH09FyqCMWw&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH09FyqCMWw&feature=related
EDİP AKBAYRAM - DOSTLAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1U8jvgTYKY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1U8jvgTYKY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ytd5b9iSM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ytd5b9iSM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shiiVglAzlo&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shiiVglAzlo&feature=related
FİKRET KIZILOK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L3QDgusWto - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L3QDgusWto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDU0ER8Cae8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDU0ER8Cae8
BUNALIMLAR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8YjKsBDC4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8YjKsBDC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKvo3OGuww - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKvo3OGuww
ERSEN - DADAŞLAR (MOĞOLLAR-KARDAŞLAR)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7gbS5gP398 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7gbS5gP398
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xUjG1SlWKk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xUjG1SlWKk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Q8rzX8RI0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_Q8rzX8RI0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vdDuKiIBY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vdDuKiIBY
ANATOLİAN PROGRESSİVE PSCHEDELİC ETHNİCAL ROCK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPcuqUgm3ds&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPcuqUgm3ds&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbWkDXRXO6Y&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbWkDXRXO6Y&feature=related
so you can think something about anatolian progressive pschedelic ethnical rock... and the lyrics was really important in this songs.. i will try to translate them too ...if you want a translate of a song please say it to me...
and there is a lot of songs that i couldnt find youtube... i will upload them to rapid or youtube and send them...
I THİNK THERE IS A LOT OF THING TO TELL YOU ABOUT TURKISH PROGRESSIVE
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: January 31 2009 at 06:31
i can say that turkish progressive pschedelic rock was nourished from the anatolian tradational music and the modern rock sounds .. that you can hear they have used the tradational turkish instruments in the songs... it s the difference of turkish psch and prog ...
i can generally say that ; cem karaca is the biggest name of progressive , erkin koray is the biggest name of pschedelic... when you listen them you can understand it easyly...
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 17:19
Merhaba arkadaş
There's much more to Anatolian Rock (the "original" ) than just "the
anatolian tradtional music and the modern rock sounds"... for instance,
classical music (which is obvious in Cem Karaca's early recordings with
Ferdy Klein & Werner Müller) and modern attempts at electronic
music (Baris Manco and his 2023 - 2024 - 2025 trilogy)
and I believe calling "Garip Coban" the first turkish progressive song
will be unfair to a couple of other tracks, maybe some from the great
Baris Manco, but specifically "Dag ve Cocuk", which itself came just
before this one, by the same "Mogollar"
There's a lot to write in this issue, anyway! That is, "bu pilav daha çok su kaldırır "
(PS for the uninitiated: I'm a big fan of all the bands/artists
Dervisan mentioned, with the possible exception of Bunalim. I've been
trying to promote some of those acts in progarchives for some time;
well, at least half-heartedly anyway )
------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 18:41
i am writing Dervisan now in "Suggest New Bands and Artists" i am on the most wonderful part ; "yoksulluk kader olamaz" LP....
and there is 3 different mind about the first anatolian rock song; 1) tülay german -burçak tarlası 2)moğollar-dağ ve çocuk 3)moğollar-garip çoban... it s not important but i prefer progressive one garip çoban...
because i really hate "anatolian rock" name... i think this period include prog folk or psche folk character but now you can see everyone say "i am an anatolian rocker" so if it s not based with prog or psch it can be a only sh*t "lümpen baba onlar lümpen"... progressive pschedelic tabanı olmayan ve anadolurock oldugunu iddia edenler yozdur..ve "kahrolsun yoz müzik" biliyosun işte yıllarca kullandım dahada kullanmıyorum... anatolian progressive pschedelic ethnical rock... allahım fransızı biliyomus söylemiş
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 19:11
Hi, Dervisan!
I think it's good to have Turkish prog here. I don't know much about it, the only CD I have is BUNALIM and I like it a lot. I also know Live Journal user from Russia who is deep into Turkish music (including rock). So there is a lot of things to discover.
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 21:23
yeah it s true .. did you wee my "Cem Karaca" subject and small biography in new bands forum??
ok lets know Cem Karaca at first
BUNALIMLAR ???? CD???? thay havent got any CD .. maybe you take them from a friend of yours... i love bunalımlar too ... they are really crazy ... and do you know they always scream like "LSD, LSD" in concerts and they like to play their instrument naked yes they were really crazy...really... and bunalımlar is not here... it s really funny...
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 17:14
^ Perhaps it was not released in Turkey, but BUNALIM have a CD, released by German label:
I know the band never had an album, only singles. CD contains 12 songs from 1970-72. There are short bio (in English) and photos in the booklet, including the nude picture you've posted.
Here is the announcement from record label ( http://www.psychedelic-music.com/psychedelic1.html - http://www.psychedelic-music.com/psychedelic1.html) : CD | BUNALIM - Same, Turkey 1969/1972 (SHADOKS 078) CD: in jewelbox. One of the most amazing Turkish music ever recorded, wild, raw and with fuzz guitar all over. Still even for most Turkish collector a kept secret. BUNALIM released on 6 singles which are incredible rare. They never did a whole album. Produced by Cem Karaca. They say about the band: "God, they were crazy! Running all nude down the Istiklal Street, psychedelic light shows, crazy paintings all over the stage wall and screaming of "LSD! LSD!" in their live shows". |
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 06:30
i know the 45rpm s of them but i really dont know their CD s ... and it s not important because i have all songs from them... and i never loose them it s good, if they have got a CD set for the people that want to know turkish pschedelic.. it s good...
this writing was written by my dear progressive pschedelic lover friend gerald (look; http://progressive.homestead.com/GRUP_BUNALIM.html - http://progressive.homestead.com/GRUP_BUNALIM.html )
"bunalım" means "depression" in turkish.. this band is really important for turkish rock music because this band was really a factory of progressive and pschedelic musicians... this band was first station of them all... ahmet güvenç (barış manço- kurtalan ekspresi) hüseyin sultanoğlu(cem karaca-dervişan) nihat örerel and aydın çakuş ( erkin koray-yeraltı dörtlüsü) these bands are all heroes of turkish rock music... so they were from Bunalımlar ... becuase of that bunalımlar is really important for all turkish progressive pschedelic rock lover
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 06:35
ahmet güvenç is still working with Kurtalan Ekspresi as a bass guitarist (he is still the biggest name of bass in turkey )
aydın ayet çakuş is still working with "Fear Nature" in USA as a guitarist and vocalist look ; ( http://www.fearnature.com - http://www.fearnature.com )
hüseyin sultanoğlu is in australia and cant play his drums because of his illness from his legs nihat örerel is still living in austalia and i dont know what he is doing
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 08:19
Dervisan wrote:
this writing was written by my dear progressive pschedelic lover friend gerald (look; http://progressive.homestead.com/GRUP_BUNALIM.html - http://progressive.homestead.com/GRUP_BUNALIM.html )
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It was among first search results when I typed "Bunalim" in Google.
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 08:24
Actually I thought they formed Bunalim after Yeralti Dörtlüsü... or maybe for some time both bands co-existed?
I agree about Ahmet Güvenç, he's probably the greatest name on bass (since I don't know any other; and Taner Öngür is certainly not up to his league ), but there's no such thing as "Kurtalan Ekspresi" since mid '80's ... Baris Manco switched to one-man band (plus an occasional guitar & some background vocals every now and then) right after Degmesin Yagli Boya, and Kurtalan played only in concerts... After Baris's death, we lost them too... I don't know about their live performances, though... I only have a recent album made by Ekspres, and it's totally sh*t....
------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 10:21
and i have to said that the manager of them was ; Cem Karaca
2 songs from BUNALIMLAR ;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8YjKsBDC4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM8YjKsBDC4 (Başak Saclım)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKvo3OGuww - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXKvo3OGuww (Bunalım)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMi_szrZ-BQ&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMi_szrZ-BQ&feature=related (Yeter Artık Kadın)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvO20Ar9H8g&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvO20Ar9H8g&feature=related (Taş var Köpek Yok)
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 10:37
i have to talk about "HARDAL" but at first i want to give some examples ; it s funny they are not in this web page too...funny only...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Zz1fW1ERE&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5Zz1fW1ERE&feature=related (Bir yagmur masalı)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZS01SR8It0&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZS01SR8It0&feature=related (ne kadar zaman gecti)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TG78LTVfGc&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TG78LTVfGc&feature=related (unuttum) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU-QD4YJs5s&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU-QD4YJs5s&feature=related (gece vakti gitar çalmak)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRJYocCJvrQ&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRJYocCJvrQ&feature=related (bırak beni)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WpjjYuCBu8&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WpjjYuCBu8&feature=related (leyla) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt6YRGeEvGc&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt6YRGeEvGc&feature=related (birgün maviyi birgün yeşili)
but whatever..i can talk about them later.. because there is a lot of masters before them
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 23:27
Very nice songs, though I don't see prog here.
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 17:48
i think someone is not agree with you
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 18:09
^ It seems you've inserted a picture instead of video in your post. At least it does not play.
And, Dervisan, look at my nickname - it's not so important for me is it prog or not if the music is good. Though it's important for the site.
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Posted By: Dervisan
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 19:00
yes you are true ... i have forgotten to cut this and it s not important already i couldnt find this picture (already i have got this LP i couldnt fint it too i think it is with my brother) so i have took a photograph from this video for show the writing
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