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Poll Question: Which one would you consider Prog or at least close(est)?
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    Posted: October 17 2008 at 02:06
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Well this album was compiled in 1979.Wink


Yeah, I failed to notice that little important detail. But I can bail myself out by saying that it has to be a double album so Roger Dean can have a full fold out for his art.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2008 at 16:58
Well this album was compiled in 1979.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2008 at 16:32
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. Ozzy started to get pissed of when Iommi started to bring in choirs, horns, strings etc. I'm sure it had something to do with his loss of interest. Here's my immaginary Sabbath Prog Compilation released in 1979 as a stop gap in between Never Say Die and Heaven & Hell entitled                   
Black Art - Black Sabbath
Side A
1. Orchid 1:30
2. Planet Caravan 4:24
3. Air Dance 5:18
4. Spiral Architect 5:29
Side B
1. Supertzar 3:42
2. Megalomania 9:40
3. Gypsy 5:10
4. Laguna Sunrise 2:53
 
Compiled by Ian Anderson & Tony Iommi
Liner notes by Annie Haslam
Cover Art by Roger Dean
Remastered by Peter Gabriel


Pretty funny fantasy there. This is the 79 minute cd age though, got to through in a few more. I would throw in Who are you, A National acrobat, Junior's eyes, might even be tempted to throw in Sleeping Village.


Interesting the comment about Ozzy being p'd by the progressive leaning. especially when you consider his first 2 solo albums had a far greater prog slant than the 2 BS albums after he left.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2008 at 16:19
Never Say Die.

Air Dance, is clearly the most progressive song they ever did. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2008 at 11:23
Both albums are good.
 
My vote is a sentimental one Sabotage being my first lp to purchase so this get my vote




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 00:11
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. Ozzy started to get pissed of when Iommi started to bring in choirs, horns, strings etc. I'm sure it had something to do with his loss of interest. Here's my immaginary Sabbath Prog Compilation released in 1979 as a stop gap in between Never Say Die and Heaven & Hell entitled                   
Black Art - Black Sabbath
Side A
1. Orchid 1:30
2. Planet Caravan 4:24
3. Air Dance 5:18
4. Spiral Architect 5:29
Side B
1. Supertzar 3:42
2. Megalomania 9:40
3. Gypsy 5:10
4. Laguna Sunrise 2:53
 
Compiled by Ian Anderson & Tony Iommi
Liner notes by Annie Haslam
Cover Art by Roger Dean
Remastered by Peter Gabriel
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2008 at 16:44
Who said that phrase , "I only thrust in god and Sabbath's first 6 albums"?
Hey man , I own Vol 4 it ain't weak at all.Never say die has some amazing tracks like "Air dance" , Junior's eyes or Johny blade , but it also features wery veak numbers
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2008 at 09:41
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:


Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath out of those.Never Say die has some really progressive moments aswell. Why isn't it mentioned here?
Yes, that's the kind of thing that would prevent me from voting in any poll: two records "against" each other, without a more complex question.Moreover, for heavy-metal fans, Black Sabbath's "progessive era" rather started with "Sabotage" (hey, they had Rick Wakeman on keyboards!) and ended with "Never Say Die". In other words, "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" is seen as the last "classical" album. Well, "classical"... I mean... For Black Sabbath.


You're wrong, Sabotage didn't have Rick Wakeman, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath had on Sabbra Cadabra, so your hipothesis or whatever must be mistaken.

Sabbath started with their first album already with some Prog oriented feel, at least Heavy Prog. Then Paranoid continued with some more, already mentioned War Pigs. Master of Reality was/is Sabbath's heaviest album IMO from Ozzy's era at least, and Vol 4 is rather weak, though some good ideas.
With Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Black Sabbath really moved to a new direction on sound. Adding orchestral arrangements, acoustic guitars on top of electric, diverse tempos, etc.. It went on even further with Sabotage, with the mini "epics" The Writ and Meglomania.

I'll listen to Never Say Die once again, though I remember it to be quite mediocre, even Technical Ectasy(?) was better, having Dirt Women which is killer.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2008 at 23:27
Sabotage takes it for me, arguably more progressive as a complete album. I love all Ozzy " Sabbtah" era albums....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2008 at 21:44
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Sabotage...for me, the best Black Sabbath album, and surely the most progressively oriented album...Clap


What Mr Dango said.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2008 at 16:38
SBS.   That said, I think all of the Ozzy -era albums are pretty damn proggy. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2008 at 03:41
SBS for me - one of their best albums ever, very solid and consistent. Sabotage, on the other hand, is somewhat dull, though I enjoy "Supertzar" immensely.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2008 at 16:58
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:


Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath out of those.Never Say die has some really progressive moments aswell. Why isn't it mentioned here?
Yes, that's the kind of thing that would prevent me from voting in any poll: two records "against" each other, without a more complex question.Moreover, for heavy-metal fans, Black Sabbath's "progessive era" rather started with "Sabotage" (hey, they had Rick Wakeman on keyboards!) and ended with "Never Say Die". In other words, "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" is seen as the last "classical" album. Well, "classical"... I mean... For Black Sabbath.


You're wrong, Sabotage didn't have Rick Wakeman, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath had on Sabbra Cadabra, so your hipothesis or whatever must be mistaken.

Sabbath started with their first album already with some Prog oriented feel, at least Heavy Prog. Then Paranoid continued with some more, already mentioned War Pigs. Master of Reality was/is Sabbath's heaviest album IMO from Ozzy's era at least, and Vol 4 is rather weak, though some good ideas.
With Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Black Sabbath really moved to a new direction on sound. Adding orchestral arrangements, acoustic guitars on top of electric, diverse tempos, etc.. It went on even further with Sabotage, with the mini "epics" The Writ and Meglomania.

I'll listen to Never Say Die once again, though I remember it to be quite mediocre, even Technical Ectasy(?) was better, having Dirt Women which is killer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2008 at 11:22
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath out of those.
Never Say die has some really progressive moments aswell. Why isn't it mentioned here?


Yes, that's the kind of thing that would prevent me from voting in any poll: two records "against" each other, without a more complex question.
Moreover, for heavy-metal fans, Black Sabbath's "progessive era" rather started with "Sabotage" (hey, they had Rick Wakeman on keyboards!) and ended with "Never Say Die".
In other words, "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" is seen as the last "classical" album.

Well, "classical"... I mean... For Black Sabbath.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2008 at 11:04
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath out of those.
Never Say die has some really progressive moments aswell. Why isn't it mentioned here?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2008 at 10:50
Sabotage...for me, the best Black Sabbath album, and surely the most progressively oriented album...Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2008 at 10:07
SBS for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2008 at 10:03
My vote goes to Sabotage, but I consider "Never Say Die" to be their proggiest album
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2008 at 02:52
Their two best albums with Ozzy imo. Sabotage narrowly get the vote, for sentimental reasons more than anything else....oh and of course for 'The Writ'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2008 at 02:48
SBS!!!! Its a great album, one of their best. Unfortunately, Sabotage is a dud. I don't know if it was the remastering job on the CD or if the original source was the same, but that album sounded boring, aside from the lack-of-anything-intersting songs.
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