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Kurpij 
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Posted: June 10 2008 at 21:21 |
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debrewguy
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Posted: June 07 2008 at 19:09 |
 BaldFriede wrote:
debrewguy wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
debrewguy wrote:
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Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".
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Has Hammill ever recorded an album with a "pop' Star ? Now that is opening up oneself to elitist critcism, for a person who has enjoyed much unquestioned adulation for his career. Oh, I'm talking about Fripp. And Daryl Hall. About Sacred Songs. About 30 years ago. Which I still don't own, though
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Yes he has! A whole bunch of them at once even! For his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher" Andy Bell of the pop band Erasure sang Montresor, Herbert Grönemeyer, a leading pop star in Germany, sang the Herbalist, Lene Lovich, the New Wave singer, sang Madeline Usher, and Sarah Jane Morris took the role of the commentating Chorus. There you are.
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Opera is "pop" music ? 
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No, it isn't, but he used pop singers for the opera. Now that's truly daring, isn't it?
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You mean like Roger Waters did with the re-staging of "The Wall" ... , no wait , better yet - Bryan Adams, Sting or Rod Stewart singing with one, two , or three of those tenor guys , or is it that tenor who just died that did a disco album ... Ooh, Ooh, I got it - Jesus Christ Superstar with Ian Gillan as Jesus, Yvonne Elliman as Mary Magdalene and a number of other "pop" singers in a Rock Opera. Actually, if the opera had been done with rock n roll singers in the 50s, that would have been daring. Since the explosion of experimentation in music since the mid 60s, it's surprising that it wasn't done before. Now if they were to do it in the nude, that would be daring.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 06 2008 at 03:46 |
debrewguy wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
debrewguy wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".
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Has Hammill ever recorded an album with a "pop' Star ? Now that is opening up oneself to elitist critcism, for a person who has enjoyed much unquestioned adulation for his career. Oh, I'm talking about Fripp. And Daryl Hall. About Sacred Songs. About 30 years ago. Which I still don't own, though
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Yes he has! A whole bunch of them at once even! For his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher" Andy Bell of the pop band Erasure sang Montresor, Herbert Grönemeyer, a leading pop star in Germany, sang the Herbalist, Lene Lovich, the New Wave singer, sang Madeline Usher, and Sarah Jane Morris took the role of the commentating Chorus. There you are.
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Opera is "pop" music ?
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No, it isn't, but he used pop singers for the opera. Now that's truly daring, isn't it?
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 BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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micky
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Posted: June 05 2008 at 19:15 |
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two words..
Franco Battiato
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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debrewguy
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Posted: June 05 2008 at 19:11 |
BaldFriede wrote:
debrewguy wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".
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Has Hammill ever recorded an album with a "pop' Star ? Now that is opening up oneself to elitist critcism, for a person who has enjoyed much unquestioned adulation for his career. Oh, I'm talking about Fripp. And Daryl Hall. About Sacred Songs. About 30 years ago. Which I still don't own, though
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Yes he has! A whole bunch of them at once even! For his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher" Andy Bell of the pop band Erasure sang Montresor, Herbert Grönemeyer, a leading pop star in Germany, sang the Herbalist, Lene Lovich, the New Wave singer, sang Madeline Usher, and Sarah Jane Morris took the role of the commentating Chorus. There you are.
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Opera is "pop" music ?
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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febus
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Posted: June 05 2008 at 11:19 |
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keith_emerson
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Posted: June 05 2008 at 11:13 |
Hammill 
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febus
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Posted: June 05 2008 at 10:27 |
KEITH EMERSON : 2 votes
GREG LAKE: 2 votes
CARL PALMER: 1 vote
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Posted: June 05 2008 at 09:23 |
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Fripp
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 02 2008 at 00:39 |
debrewguy wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".
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Has Hammill ever recorded an album with a "pop' Star ? Now that is opening up oneself to elitist critcism, for a person who has enjoyed much unquestioned adulation for his career. Oh, I'm talking about Fripp. And Daryl Hall. About Sacred Songs. About 30 years ago. Which I still don't own, though
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Yes he has! A whole bunch of them at once even! For his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher" Andy Bell of the pop band Erasure sang Montresor, Herbert Grönemeyer, a leading pop star in Germany, sang the Herbalist, Lene Lovich, the New Wave singer, sang Madeline Usher, and Sarah Jane Morris took the role of the commentating Chorus. There you are.
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debrewguy
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Posted: June 01 2008 at 22:12 |
Relayer09 wrote:
Frank Zappa is by far more qualified than any of the other canidates.
Here's a very interesting link of Frank on Crossfire from 1986. Take the time and watch it. really good stuff.
Also Frank's testimony before congress on censorship.
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Please do not take this as a flat out rejection of Zappa's intelligence and thought ... so here goes ... Zappa suffered from his self assured and assumed opinion that he knew best. And as some say, the more intellectual you are, the easier you can "justify" means to ends. Not to say he wouldn't have made a good, nay, great politician. Just that there would have been a need for strong counter-balance with actual power to counter him. After all, this was a guy who put out a thousand albums. The joke being, that if it made it to tape, it made it to market. (I don't really know that this is true). Why ? Who was there to stop him ? On the other hand, if we really are looking for a leader, Alex Lifeson should be considered. Why ? Decent, reasonably intelligent, down to earth; and based on the incident in Florida (??) last year, able to emulate one of our previous prime minister in physical situations that may arise (I refer to Monsieur Chretien's famous "Shawinigan Handshake"). P.S. the Wikipedia article is rather short on info and is not a full picture of the incident.
Edited by debrewguy - June 01 2008 at 22:13
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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debrewguy
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Posted: June 01 2008 at 22:03 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".
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Has Hammill ever recorded an album with a "pop' Star ? Now that is opening up oneself to elitist critcism, for a person who has enjoyed much unquestioned adulation for his career. Oh, I'm talking about Fripp. And Daryl Hall. About Sacred Songs. About 30 years ago. Which I still don't own, though
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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debrewguy
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Posted: June 01 2008 at 21:59 |
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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crimson87
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Posted: June 01 2008 at 15:37 |
I think Fripp is the most representative but one of his first measures as a president would be : FREE GUITAR CRAFT TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!
Emerson as a president would take us as slaves to build a gigantic 600 ft Moog in order to match his ego!!!
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: June 01 2008 at 12:26 |
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Carl Palmer, for me.
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Weston
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Posted: June 01 2008 at 12:05 |
ten years after wrote:
The qualities presidents of all countries need are: a huge ego, ambition to match, a poorly developed sense of humour and an ability to wear people into submission.
I think Jon Anderson is the one on the list best endowed with these attributes. |
Jon Anderson doesn't have a sense of humor? You mean "Arriving UFO" is a serious song? Scary!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 01 2008 at 05:36 |
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Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 01 2008 at 05:25 |
Gotta pile on to the Frippster. Oh, wait a second, Zappa is an option, dagnabbit!!! 
Edited by Slartibartfast - June 01 2008 at 05:26
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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zicIy
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Posted: June 01 2008 at 05:13 |
... that bearded old guy is playing his flute damn good...
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Zargus
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Posted: June 01 2008 at 04:22 |
Robert Fripp no doubt, his a eggheaded geek yust like most prog rockers. 
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