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Topic: Most representative prog personality
Posted By: crimson87
Subject: Most representative prog personality
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 13:22

If Progland were to choose a President , who would win the elections??

 




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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 13:32
Fripp would be the best candidate (he's harsh but I agree with his idealism) but Neil Peart would win because he can recite huge scripts from memory and look charismatic doing it

I mean that he can't improvise llolol

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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 13:54
Prog is at its best when it's free and anarchic... "Progland" would never require a president...

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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 14:40
Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

If Progland were to choose a President , who would win the elections??

 

 
I thought Progland was a monarchy and Crimson the first was the kingLOL


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 14:57

Peter Gabriel, because he's good in unusual lyrics, experimental music which at the same time could appeal to many people, he's good as it comes to theatre, he doesn't stand still in his music: is progressive in the true sense of the word; he has a very remarkable voice; he is a good songwriter and a skilled musician, and a visionary artist. All in one. Peter for president! 



Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 16:01
My heart votes for Peter Hammill, but the real winner would be Jon Anderson - he has already been succesful governor of Yes, Brian Lane and Eddie Offord would produce great campaign for him
 
Robert Fripp would say - "I was betrayed back in 1970 in America by Ian McDonald and Michael Giles so f**k these progressive mainstream dunderheads" and he would resign from election 


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 16:15
Fripp's about as charismatic as a block of ice, so I think Ian Anderson or Fish would be the best.

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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 16:47
Fish is the man 1- charisma 2- honesty 3- power of language 4- FUNNY! 5- obviously one of the nice guys
 
 


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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 16:53
Between Zappa and Gabriel.

My vote goes for dear Zappa.


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 16:53
Fripp. Omar and Cedric would be a close second.


Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 16:55
We are lacking Italian and German guys here - how about Francesco Di Giacomo for president - he looks indeed majesticWink

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 17:56
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Prog is at its best when it's free and anarchic... "Progland" would never require a president...

Right on!


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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 19:55
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

Fripp would be the best candidate (he's harsh but I agree with his idealism) but Neil Peart would win because he can recite huge scripts from memory and look charismatic doing it

I mean that he can't improvise llolol
 
If "Reciting Scripts" is one of the criteria, then certainly Fish has Peart beat on this! Wink 
 


Posted By: ZowieZiggy
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 20:37

Not a single Floyd member in here... No Steve Howe, no Hackett...Come on!

I won't vote for this poll.



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Posted By: horsewithteeth11
Date Posted: May 30 2008 at 20:52
One not on the list that would be absolutly fu**ing insane (and he'd probably drive everyone else crazy too) is Christian VanderLOL But of the choices on the list, I'd have to say it's the almighty Zappa over Fripp, since one of them has charisma and the other, besides his music, seems to be a nonexistent entity.

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Posted By: Prejjer
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 02:58
Vander is on the list actually, end yes of course Vander should be the ruler of 99.99% bands that he has nothing in common with! In the end we'd have a billion bands sounding like Koenjihyakkei or ZAO! My vote goes to Vander


Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 05:07
My vote would go for Fish (but for that Out of Water)

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Posted By: Soulsiick
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 06:53
With a quick look of the list,
it cant be anyone else than fripp !
 


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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 06:58
Zappa! he was a politician,Job done!

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Posted By: Relayer09
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 09:55
Frank Zappa is by far more qualified than any of the other canidates.
 
Here's a very interesting link of Frank on Crossfire from 1986. Take the time and watch it. really good stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc
 
Also Frank's testimony before congress on censorship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZW3TazHW3E - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZW3TazHW3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onnjFhmwnbI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onnjFhmwnbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQPfcLwTH6M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQPfcLwTH6M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0MwPDaLhJM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0MwPDaLhJM
 
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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 10:47
Pter Gabriel is the complete package and should be considered for the job ...   what is the job anyway ? Shocked


Posted By: Weston
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 11:17
Fun Game!

I voted Neil Peart for his thoughtfulness and  seeming sincerity.

At one time I would have voted Ian Anderson without hesitation, but of late he's said things that disappoint me.


Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 20:51
I'm not familiar with the constitution of progland but i suspect that being dead may disqualify Zappa. 
 
The qualities presidents of all countries need are: a huge ego, ambition to match, a poorly developed sense of humour and an ability to wear people into submission.
 
I think Jon Anderson is the one on the list best endowed with these attributes.


Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: May 31 2008 at 20:56

I might add that Chrisian Zander would challenge Anderson on this, but i suspect the constitution would disqualify the insane.



Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 04:22
Robert Fripp no doubt, his a eggheaded geek yust like most prog rockers. Wink

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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 05:13

... that bearded old guy is playing his flute damn good...



Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 05:25
Gotta pile on to the Frippster. Big%20smile

Oh, wait a second, Zappa is an option, dagnabbit!!! Angry


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 05:36
Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".


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Posted By: Weston
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 12:05
Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

 
The qualities presidents of all countries need are: a huge ego, ambition to match, a poorly developed sense of humour and an ability to wear people into submission.
 
I think Jon Anderson is the one on the list best endowed with these attributes.


Jon Anderson doesn't have a sense of humor?  You mean "Arriving UFO" is a serious song? 

Scary!


Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 12:26
Carl Palmer, for me.

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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 15:37

I think Fripp is the most representative but one of his first measures as a president would be : FREE GUITAR CRAFT TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

Emerson as a president would take us as slaves to build a gigantic 600 ft Moog in order to match his ego!!!LOL



Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 21:59
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Prog is at its best when it's free and anarchic... "Progland" would never require a president...

Right on!

Not ! Explain to me how highly arranged music by Yes, Tull, Floyd, Genesis, GG and others fits into your definition of prog at its' best Confused


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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 22:03
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".

Has Hammill ever recorded an album with a "pop' Star ? Now that is opening up oneself to elitist critcism, for a person who has enjoyed much unquestioned adulation for his career. Oh, I'm talking about Fripp. And Daryl Hall. About Sacred Songs. About 30 years ago. Which I still don't own, thoughBig%20smile


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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 01 2008 at 22:12
Originally posted by Relayer09 Relayer09 wrote:

Frank Zappa is by far more qualified than any of the other canidates.
 
Here's a very interesting link of Frank on Crossfire from 1986. Take the time and watch it. really good stuff.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc
 
Also Frank's testimony before congress on censorship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZW3TazHW3E - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZW3TazHW3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onnjFhmwnbI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onnjFhmwnbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQPfcLwTH6M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQPfcLwTH6M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0MwPDaLhJM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0MwPDaLhJM
 
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Please do not take this as a flat out rejection of Zappa's intelligence and thought ... so here goes ...
Zappa suffered from his self assured and assumed opinion that he knew best. And as some say, the more intellectual you are, the easier you can "justify" means to ends. Not to say he wouldn't have made a good, nay, great politician. Just that there would have been a need for strong counter-balance with actual power to counter him. After all, this was a guy who put out a thousand albums. The joke being, that if it made it to tape, it made it to market. (I don't really know that this is true). Why ? Who was there to stop him ?

On the other hand, if we really are looking for a leader, Alex Lifeson should be considered.
Why ? Decent, reasonably intelligent, down to earth; and based on the incident in Florida (??) last year, able to emulate one of our previous prime minister in physical situations that may arise (I refer to Monsieur Chretien's famous "Shawinigan Handshake").
P.S. the Wikipedia article is rather short on info and is not a full picture of the incident.


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 02 2008 at 00:39
Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".

Has Hammill ever recorded an album with a "pop' Star ? Now that is opening up oneself to elitist critcism, for a person who has enjoyed much unquestioned adulation for his career. Oh, I'm talking about Fripp. And Daryl Hall. About Sacred Songs. About 30 years ago. Which I still don't own, thoughBig%20smile

Yes he has! A whole bunch of them at once even! For his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher" Andy Bell of the pop band Erasure sang Montresor, Herbert Grönemeyer, a leading pop star in Germany, sang the Herbalist, Lene Lovich, the New Wave singer, sang Madeline Usher, and Sarah Jane Morris took the role of the commentating Chorus. There you are.


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Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: June 05 2008 at 09:23
Fripp


Posted By: febus
Date Posted: June 05 2008 at 10:27
KEITH EMERSON : 2 votes
GREG LAKE: 2 votes
CARL PALMER: 1 vote
 
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Posted By: keith_emerson
Date Posted: June 05 2008 at 11:13
HammillClap


Posted By: febus
Date Posted: June 05 2008 at 11:19
Originally posted by keith_emerson keith_emerson wrote:

HammillClap
 
With a nickname like yours, we were expecting the obvious, not HammillLOLWink


Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 05 2008 at 19:11
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".

Has Hammill ever recorded an album with a "pop' Star ? Now that is opening up oneself to elitist critcism, for a person who has enjoyed much unquestioned adulation for his career. Oh, I'm talking about Fripp. And Daryl Hall. About Sacred Songs. About 30 years ago. Which I still don't own, thoughBig%20smile

Yes he has! A whole bunch of them at once even! For his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher" Andy Bell of the pop band Erasure sang Montresor, Herbert Grönemeyer, a leading pop star in Germany, sang the Herbalist, Lene Lovich, the New Wave singer, sang Madeline Usher, and Sarah Jane Morris took the role of the commentating Chorus. There you are.


Opera is "pop" music ? Confused


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: June 05 2008 at 19:15
two words..

Franco Battiato


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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: June 06 2008 at 03:46
Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".

Has Hammill ever recorded an album with a "pop' Star ? Now that is opening up oneself to elitist critcism, for a person who has enjoyed much unquestioned adulation for his career. Oh, I'm talking about Fripp. And Daryl Hall. About Sacred Songs. About 30 years ago. Which I still don't own, thoughBig%20smile

Yes he has! A whole bunch of them at once even! For his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher" Andy Bell of the pop band Erasure sang Montresor, Herbert Grönemeyer, a leading pop star in Germany, sang the Herbalist, Lene Lovich, the New Wave singer, sang Madeline Usher, and Sarah Jane Morris took the role of the commentating Chorus. There you are.


Opera is "pop" music ? Confused

No, it isn't, but he used pop singers for the opera. Now that's truly daring, isn't it?


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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 07 2008 at 19:09
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by debrewguy debrewguy wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Peter Hammill has dabbled in more genres than Fripp, therefore he gets my vote. Had Fripp ever done an opera my vote might have gone to him too, but the way it is right now Hammill covers more different styles, so my vote goes there.
If in doubt about my statement, I suggest you listen to Hammill's more experimental works, like "Sonix", "Spur of the Moment", "Loops and Reels". "The Appointed Hour" or his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher".

Has Hammill ever recorded an album with a "pop' Star ? Now that is opening up oneself to elitist critcism, for a person who has enjoyed much unquestioned adulation for his career. Oh, I'm talking about Fripp. And Daryl Hall. About Sacred Songs. About 30 years ago. Which I still don't own, thoughBig%20smile

Yes he has! A whole bunch of them at once even! For his opera "The Fall of the House of Usher" Andy Bell of the pop band Erasure sang Montresor, Herbert Grönemeyer, a leading pop star in Germany, sang the Herbalist, Lene Lovich, the New Wave singer, sang Madeline Usher, and Sarah Jane Morris took the role of the commentating Chorus. There you are.


Opera is "pop" music ? Confused

No, it isn't, but he used pop singers for the opera. Now that's truly daring, isn't it?


You mean like Roger Waters did with the re-staging of "The Wall" ... , no wait , better yet - Bryan Adams, Sting or Rod Stewart singing with one, two , or three of those tenor guys , or is it that tenor who just died that did a disco album ...

Ooh, Ooh, I got it - Jesus Christ Superstar with Ian Gillan as Jesus, Yvonne Elliman as Mary Magdalene and a number of other "pop" singers in a Rock Opera.
Actually, if the opera had been done with rock n roll singers in the 50s, that would have been daring. Since the explosion of experimentation in music since the mid 60s, it's surprising that it wasn't done before.
Now if they were to do it in the nude, that would be daring.


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Posted By: Kurpij
Date Posted: June 10 2008 at 21:21
Ian Anderson

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