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Equality 7-2521 
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 Topic: Black Sabbath, on Black Sabbath, by Black Sabbath
Posted: May 04 2008 at 01:36 |
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Black Sabbath, the band never was more frightening.
Plus its fun to say Black Sabbath by Black Sabbth of off Black Sabbth.
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jammun
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Posted: May 02 2008 at 22:06 |
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I'd say Crazy World of Arthur Brown had the 'Hell' thing down pat way before Sabbath, and better as well. But I recently picked up the Black Box set (first 8 albums) and am in the process of re-evaluating my previously held opinion of the band.
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A B Negative
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Posted: April 13 2008 at 06:36 |
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There are only five notes in the pentatonic scale so there's a good chance music based on this scale will sound similar to other pentatonic-based music. Have you heard how close Purple's Black Night sounds to (We Ain't Got) Nothin' Yet by The Blues Magoos?
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Posted: April 12 2008 at 17:43 |
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i also like some of the neo-doom bands. trouble (if i can even call them "neo" anymore, as they started in the late 70s!). queens of the stoneage are kinda cool.
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jme
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Posted: April 12 2008 at 17:40 |
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favorite song? after forever.
honorable mention: hand of doom, which seems pretty indicitive of the whole doom genre.
also: NIB, warpigs, iron man, paranoid.
the dio "mod rules" period was kinda cool. but, i am more of a fan of the first 3-4 albums, early ozzy sab. i am not much of a fan of solo ozz anymore, though i like randy rhodes. i like studying his gear, and i would love to have that white tolex marshall he had! also, he was a fan of the glory days of mxr (pre-dunlop!). and mxr has made the best sounding pedals i have ever heard. i STILL have yet to hear chorus that sounds as good as the microchorus!).
(sorry, i geeked. didnt mean to spaz out on gear again!).
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KrakAtack
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Posted: April 11 2008 at 04:25 |
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Supernaut running through my head tonight............
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toolis
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Posted: April 11 2008 at 04:08 |
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it's like Man On The Silver Mountain riff.. uses the same notes cause it's on the same scale.. the epitomy of rock...
Edited by toolis - April 11 2008 at 04:09
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: April 11 2008 at 03:27 |
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Hardly. Anyway, it's based on blues so it's all going to sound the same anyway...
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The Whistler
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Posted: April 11 2008 at 02:34 |
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No, but dude, it's like, the exact same notes!
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Posted: April 11 2008 at 02:31 |
 The Whistler wrote:
Okocha wrote:
Sorry whistler but I totally disagree with your opinion...BS is something very new in the scene,at that time.Not Zep,nor Purple had played anything like them!P.S What's wrong with the riff in NIB???
The Whistler wrote:
Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, BLACK SABBATH. Got the debut. And, yeah, I was VERY underwealmed.
Because, to be perfectly honest, I don't really hear anything original about this album. It's the culmination of what Jethro Tull and Deep Purple were doing a couple years earlier. Only, you know, with about half the talent and catchy melodies. And what riffs DO lodge themselves in my brain sound kind of...familiar...
You know, like my favorite song off the album, that thing with "N.I.B." Where do I know that riff from? |
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Go take a listen to Cream's "Sunshine of Your Love" (and Iron Butterfly's "Inna Gadda da Vida," for sh*ts and giggles), and tell me you don't hear it. |
Go listen to the 99% of the rock scene at that time and tell me that you don't listen to the same A minor pentatonic blues scale in EVERY SINGLE riff and solo.... 
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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The Whistler
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Posted: April 11 2008 at 02:06 |
Okocha wrote:
Sorry whistler but I totally disagree with your opinion...BS is something very new in the scene,at that time.
Not Zep,nor Purple had played anything like them!
P.S What's wrong with the riff in NIB???
The Whistler wrote:
Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, BLACK SABBATH. Got the debut. And, yeah, I was VERY underwealmed.
Because, to be perfectly honest, I don't really hear anything original about this album. It's the culmination of what Jethro Tull and Deep Purple were doing a couple years earlier. Only, you know, with about half the talent and catchy melodies. And what riffs DO lodge themselves in my brain sound kind of...familiar...
You know, like my favorite song off the album, that thing with "N.I.B." Where do I know that riff from? |
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Go take a listen to Cream's "Sunshine of Your Love" (and Iron Butterfly's "Inna Gadda da Vida," for sh*ts and giggles), and tell me you don't hear it.
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Novalis
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Posted: April 09 2008 at 21:56 |
BroSpence wrote:
WHAT IS THIS......THAT STANDS BEFOOORRRRRE ME?
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They came into their own on Paranoid though.
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zappaholic
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Posted: April 08 2008 at 19:37 |
Oh no, no, OH PLEASE GOD HELP ME!!!! 
/Master Of Reality and Vol 4 are better
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: April 08 2008 at 15:21 |
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^ Plus, that whole song is based upon Diabolus in Musica. If that isn't metal, I don't know what is!!! \m/
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: April 08 2008 at 09:46 |
There was a lot more going on in this record that Zeppelin had not already done than some people realise.
The song Black Sabbath features one of the landmark and most important riffs in Heavy Metal history, surely (the riff beginning at 4:36).
I wouldn't consider any of the other songs on the album heavy metal as such, but the title track metal riff was the one that truly put metal on the map.
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Posted: April 08 2008 at 09:01 |
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My vote goes to the N.I.B.
Perhaps debut wasn't too groundbreaking (twas more heavy blues than metal), but the other early albumsalbums certainly are!
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Posted: April 08 2008 at 07:39 |
The Whistler wrote:
Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath, BLACK SABBATH. Got the debut. And, yeah, I was VERY underwealmed.
Because, to be perfectly honest, I don't really hear anything original about this album. It's the culmination of what Jethro Tull and Deep Purple were doing a couple years earlier. Only, you know, with about half the talent and catchy melodies. And what riffs DO lodge themselves in my brain sound kind of...familiar |
Always good to see constructive criticism of a landmark album which has influenced countless bands for the last 38 years.
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Posted: April 08 2008 at 06:29 |
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N.I.B.
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: April 08 2008 at 05:34 |
I'm not too big of a fan of this album either, but I recognize the importance and the influence. "Black Sabbath" and "N.I.B." are my favorite songs from it. This album is vastly influential to doom metal, also. 
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BroSpence
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Posted: April 08 2008 at 00:35 |
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WHAT IS THIS......THAT STANDS BEFOOORRRRRE ME?
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