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richardh
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Topic: ELP - Why? Posted: April 01 2005 at 17:46 |
Love Beach has at least 3 good tracks...honest.Works Vol 2 was actually more ''cynical'' as that included rejected tracks from the previous album and just about anything else that happened to be lying around at the time.Love Beach was at least 100% new material..so I don't see anything cynical there even if it was a 'contractural obligation album' ...it just wasn't very good ..mostly.That said I still like the first 2 parts of Memoirs Of An Officer And A Gentleman and Canario and the demo recordings show a reasonable amount of energy.However the band were on the verge of falling apart and so the album ended up disjointed (Lake/Sinfield songs on one side;Emerson/Sinfield songs on the other) and was poorly produced.It could have been as 'good' as Yes 90125 or Asia's first album with better production..even if that doesnt say a lot admittedly.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 13:29 |
plodder wrote:
I also like "Circle of Heaven"
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Gdub is a big fan of that too!! Each to his own I say!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 13:22 |
plodder wrote:
Nope.
If you don't like it fair enough.
For You is my favourite ELP song some days dependant on my mood.
Really, if you feel the need to pull apart any individual song/album/CD constructively then Ok, but some of these "ELP are better that YES are better than Genesis" threads are just so childish.
Celebrate the different moods, colours and textures contained in our progressive tastes. Don't spend your time hating someones personal tastes.
I also like "Circle of Heaven" I think it's a little gem of a track.
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I agree and your from Wales too
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Manunkind
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 13:22 |
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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plodder
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 13:19 |
Nope.
If you don't like it fair enough.
For You is my favourite ELP song some days dependant on my mood.
Really, if you feel the need to pull apart any individual song/album/CD
constructively then Ok, but some of these "ELP are better that YES are
better than Genesis" threads are just so childish.
Celebrate the different moods, colours and textures contained in our
progressive tastes. Don't spend your time hating someones personal
tastes.
I also like "Circle of Heaven" I think it's a little gem of a track.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 13:17 |
Reed Lover wrote:
plodder wrote:
Not really.
I think I've matured enough now to say if you want to sl*g a band off, go for it.
Me, I don't want anything to do with it.
I like various kinds of bands and spending my time trawling around a thread looking for people to wind-up isn't for me.
But don't let me stop you.
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What you wouldnt sl*g "Love Beach" off for being the most disgracefully cinical release ever by a Prog Rock band?
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A cynical release by Atlantic Records more like!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 13:12 |
plodder wrote:
Not really.
I think I've matured enough now to say if you want to sl*g a band off, go for it.
Me, I don't want anything to do with it.
I like various kinds of bands and spending my time trawling around a thread looking for people to wind-up isn't for me.
But don't let me stop you.
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What you wouldnt sl*g "Love Beach" off for being the most disgracefully cinical release ever by a Prog Rock band?
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plodder
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 13:09 |
Not really.
I think I've matured enough now to say if you want to sl*g a band off, go for it.
Me, I don't want anything to do with it.
I like various kinds of bands and spending my time trawling around a thread looking for people to wind-up isn't for me.
But don't let me stop you.
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bluetailfly
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 13:03 |
plodder wrote:
I like all the bands I like and don't like all the ones I don't.
Simple really.
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But surely it's not that simple, you must have a few bands that you don't like for reasons you are unsure of, that you are trying desparately to like, or a favorite band or two that just doesn't sound as good anymore no matter how hard you try to still like them, but you don't want to let them go...
I can get rather complicated, navigating our changing tastes...
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"The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle."
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plodder
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 02:46 |
I like all the bands I like and don't like all the ones I don't.
Simple really.
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lunaticviolist
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 02:43 |
You know what band really sucks? Jethro Tull!
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My recent purchases:
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richardh
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Joined: February 18 2004
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 02:22 |
ELP have always tended to polarise opinion.They were never a perfect band but they had ideas which is the most important thing to me.I have no problem with people telling me that they don't like them but I do admit to getting annoyed when people ignorantly try to devalue their place in the prog scheme of things just for the 'petty' sake of it.Hopefully I've never abused or been rude to anyone though.If I have then I sincerely apologise.At the end of the day there is no accounting for taste.I just happen to have very good taste
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Blacksword
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Joined: June 22 2004
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Posted: April 01 2005 at 02:08 |
1) We cant ALL be expected to like ALL prog rock bands. ELP have their haters on here, as do Rush, Yes and whoever else. So what?
2) Some people have no sense of humour. Or,through no fault of their own, dont understand or pick up on the humour that comes across in teasing, and playful criticism. Thats what most criticism of bands amounts to around here.
3) With someone like KE9, what music he likes and dislikes becomes irrelevant. It's his attitude to others that causes the problems, lights the fire, and creates the impression that ELP are hated. I, for one have a problem with KE9, not ELP.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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threefates
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 23:12 |
ELP are Life.... just remember that and everything will be okay!!!
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THIS IS ELP
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tuxon
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 22:39 |
Rob The Plant wrote:
Here's a song I made about it
Elp is better than Yes yes yes yes no Yes is not good and ELP is good Yes yes YES Oh yah!
See why you should leave songwriting up to a skilled poet like Greg Lake.
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You aren't by any chance Greg Lake, are you?
those lyrics reminded me of Benny the bouncer
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I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT
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gdub411
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 22:25 |
Rob The Plant wrote:
Here's a song I made about it
Elp is better than Yes yes yes yes no Yes is not good and ELP is good Yes yes YES Oh yah!
See why you should leave songwriting up to a skilled poet like Greg Lake.
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Rob The Plant
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 22:02 |
Here's a song I made about it
Elp is better than Yes yes yes yes no Yes is not good and ELP is good Yes yes YES Oh yah!
See why you should leave songwriting up to a skilled poet like Greg Lake.
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Collaborators will take your soul.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 21:37 |
Cluster One wrote:
Isn't Man With Hat, KE9 and 3rd Impression (amongst others...) all the same person? (Thought that was obvious) |
No. Man with hat is not KE9 nor 3rd impression. I am a seperate preson. Those other two may be the same, and there might be others, but dont include me in that group, thanks.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Cluster One
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 20:46 |
Isn't Man With Hat, KE9 and 3rd Impression (amongst others...) all the same person? (Thought that was obvious)
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Marmalade...I like marmalade.
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Beau Heem
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Joined: January 12 2005
Location: Finland
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Posted: March 31 2005 at 19:39 |
Reed Lover wrote:
Funnily enough,U2 are far more unpopular around here than ELP! |
Yes. But Reed, that applies to you, too.
Cheers
-Beau
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