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SouthSideoftheSky 
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 Topic: Sabbath Bloody Sabotage!
Posted: August 15 2008 at 13:37 |
Black Sabbath is one of my fvourite bans of all time and bothof these are five star albums for me. But Sabotage is the best!! I agree on the cover art though, but we are discussing the music, not the cover 
Wakeman does not play keyboards on the entire Sabbath Bloody Sabbath album, only on Sabra Cadabra, I think. Certainly not on Who Are You anyway, it is either Ozzy or Tony, I believe.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: August 15 2008 at 10:45 |
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath for me.
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YesFan72
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Posted: August 11 2008 at 22:53 |
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I'll say Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. It has Wakeman!
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: August 04 2008 at 18:30 |
well those albums are my favorites and i canīt vote!!!
Cheerrs
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Zargus
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Posted: May 09 2008 at 05:41 |
like em both ofc but if i must il go with the Sabotage.
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russellk
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 12:44 |
 Toaster Mantis wrote:
russellk wrote:
Yeah, what's with that cover? |
That's just how people dressed in the 1970s.  |
Did they? I don't remember that!  Mind you, for most of the 70s I wore a school uniform. Oh, and flared jeans, but I was so short the wide parts were cut off. I hated that. Don't think I would have enjoyed those tights.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 07:40 |
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I guess both albums have their ups and downs eg
'Sabbath Bloody Sabbath' suffers from some overly elaborate arrangements esp 'Spiral Architect' which does dilute the raunch a tad plus it all sounds over produced to me but with stronger songs maybe ?:
'Sabotage' is rawer and perhaps more heavy sounding but the material is a little weaker in places ?
But yeah, I've got to admit that 'Symptom of the Universe' has got a tritone riff you would die for.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 03:20 |
russellk wrote:
Yeah, what's with that cover? |
That's just how people dressed in the 1970s.
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russellk
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Posted: May 08 2008 at 00:26 |
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Yeah, what's with that cover? Erk. But 'Sabotage' was my favourite heavy metal album for twenty years and more. SBS is excellent, but there are riffs bursting out all over the place on 'Sabotage' - Iommi plays 'em and throws 'em away (How many are there on 'Thrill of it All'?) And the shock value the first time you listen to it - the sudden ending of Hole in the Sky, the chugging riff of Symptom, the dramatic chords introducing The Writ... ah, heaven. Well, perhaps not heaven. But some blissful place, anyway.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: May 07 2008 at 12:34 |
Easy Livin wrote:
... but Sabotage is one louder. (It goes up to 11) |
And lets not forget with Sabotage, not only do we get some of Sabbath's finest moments in 'The Writ' and 'Symptom Of The Universe', but we also get a picture of Bill Ward wearing ladies' tights...
...top that!
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: May 04 2008 at 04:30 |
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I don't get the dislike of Sabotage myself... it's a more consistent album, really, sure it has its fillers (Supertzar and Am I Going Insane?) but those are far better than those on Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. I mean, wtf's the deal with Fluff? Spiral Architect never did much for me either...
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: May 04 2008 at 01:37 |
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is their best album.
Sabotage... not so much.
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Jared
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Posted: May 02 2008 at 12:16 |
Blacksword wrote:
^ What the man said!
Sabotage is their best album.  |
I have to agree with Easy McRobinson on this one....
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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EnglishAssassin
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Posted: April 05 2008 at 18:39 |
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Hmm... Sabotage has some good moments (actually, the more I think about it the more I remember it having), but it's still the album where the cracks began to show in Sabbath's creative process. It doesn't, for me, have much of the energy or the depth of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, or indeed any of its predecessors. It still ain't a bad record by any means, though.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: March 30 2008 at 17:12 |
Sabotage for me, it just seems to have stronger songs, although I think the song "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" is a Sabbath classic
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Abstrakt
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Posted: March 30 2008 at 06:36 |
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, easily.
Sabotage has some great songs, but sounds overall more messy, and not as solid as their other albums.
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Easy Livin
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Posted: March 30 2008 at 06:23 |
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... but Sabotage is one louder. (It goes up to 11)
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BroSpence
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Posted: March 30 2008 at 01:33 |
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SABBATH BLOODY SABBATH!
Its a friggin' masterpiece.
Sabotage kind of sucks. I mean some of the songs are good, but overall it sounds like a mess. The artwork on SBS is even 334239430 better than on Sabotage.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 23:53 |
Nightfly wrote:
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath overall though Sympton of the Universe is one of their best tracks ever. |
Same for me.
But their first two albums have the most power for me.
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Blacksword
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Posted: March 29 2008 at 21:00 |
^ What the man said!
Sabotage is their best album.
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