Sabbath Bloody Sabotage!
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Topic: Sabbath Bloody Sabotage!
Posted By: The Quiet One
Subject: Sabbath Bloody Sabotage!
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 12:51
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These are total faves of mine, I know that for many fans too. Being the most progressed albums, with great use of keyboards, much melodic sound too.
So Which? |
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 13:32
| Sabbath Bloody Sabbath overall though Sympton of the Universe is one of their best tracks ever. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 13:36
Are you a metal fan? I'm not, so I really can't stand Sympton of the Universe, but the final part is great and awsmoe too. Overall I prefer SBS slightly, but Sabotage has The Writ and Meglomania, both have one of my fave riffs from them. |
Nightfly wrote:Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 16:02
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is my fave!
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 16:07
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I'll play devil's advocate and go for "Sabotage." Why? Symptom of the Universe and Megalomania are absolutely reckless tunes! And The Writ? Oh man... "vultures sucking gold from you" and "Are you Satan, Are you man?", plus the light moments and the heavy moments... I just love that song. Plus, unlike SBS, it doesn't have "Who Are You"  |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 18:15
| "Sabotage" for me. I reckon it is the Sab's finest hour and their most progressive album too. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 21:00
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^ What the man said!
Sabotage is their best album. 
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Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: March 29 2008 at 23:53
Same for me.
But their first two albums have the most power for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 01:33
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SABBATH BLOODY SABBATH! Its a friggin' masterpiece. Sabotage kind of sucks. I mean some of the songs are good, but overall it sounds like a mess. The artwork on SBS is even 334239430 better than on Sabotage. |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 06:23
| ... but Sabotage is one louder. (It goes up to 11) |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 06:36
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, easily.
Sabotage has some great songs, but sounds overall more messy, and not as solid as their other albums.
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: March 30 2008 at 17:12
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Sabotage for me, it just seems to have stronger songs, although I think the song "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" is a Sabbath classic |
Posted By: EnglishAssassin
Date Posted: April 05 2008 at 18:39
| Hmm... Sabotage has some good moments (actually, the more I think about it the more I remember it having), but it's still the album where the cracks began to show in Sabbath's creative process. It doesn't, for me, have much of the energy or the depth of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, or indeed any of its predecessors. It still ain't a bad record by any means, though. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: May 02 2008 at 12:16
I have to agree with Easy McRobinson on this one....  ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 01:37
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath is their best album. Sabotage... not so much. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: May 04 2008 at 04:30
| I don't get the dislike of Sabotage myself... it's a more consistent album, really, sure it has its fillers (Supertzar and Am I Going Insane?) but those are far better than those on Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. I mean, wtf's the deal with Fluff? Spiral Architect never did much for me either... |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 07 2008 at 12:34
And lets not forget with Sabotage, not only do we get some of Sabbath's finest moments in 'The Writ' and 'Symptom Of The Universe', but we also get a picture of Bill Ward wearing ladies' tights... ...top that! ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 08 2008 at 00:26
| Yeah, what's with that cover? Erk. But 'Sabotage' was my favourite heavy metal album for twenty years and more. SBS is excellent, but there are riffs bursting out all over the place on 'Sabotage' - Iommi plays 'em and throws 'em away (How many are there on 'Thrill of it All'?) And the shock value the first time you listen to it - the sudden ending of Hole in the Sky, the chugging riff of Symptom, the dramatic chords introducing The Writ... ah, heaven. Well, perhaps not heaven. But some blissful place, anyway. |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: May 08 2008 at 03:20
That's just how people dressed in the 1970s.
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 08 2008 at 07:40
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I guess both albums have their ups and downs eg 'Sabbath Bloody Sabbath' suffers from some overly elaborate arrangements esp 'Spiral Architect' which does dilute the raunch a tad plus it all sounds over produced to me but with stronger songs maybe ?: 'Sabotage' is rawer and perhaps more heavy sounding but the material is a little weaker in places ? But yeah, I've got to admit that 'Symptom of the Universe' has got a tritone riff you would die for. |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: May 08 2008 at 12:44
Did they? I don't remember that!  Mind you, for most of the 70s I wore a school uniform. Oh, and flared jeans, but I was so short the wide parts were cut off. I hated that.Don't think I would have enjoyed those tights. |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: May 09 2008 at 05:41
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like em both ofc but if i must il go with the Sabotage. ------------- 
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Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Date Posted: August 04 2008 at 18:30
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well those albums are my favorites and i canīt vote!!!
Cheerrs -------------  |
Posted By: YesFan72
Date Posted: August 11 2008 at 22:53
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I'll say Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. It has Wakeman!
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Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 10:45
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath for me.
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Posted By: SouthSideoftheSky
Date Posted: August 15 2008 at 13:37
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Black Sabbath is one of my fvourite bans of all time and bothof these are five star albums for me. But Sabotage is the best!! I agree on the cover art though, but we are discussing the music, not the cover
 Wakeman does not play keyboards on the entire Sabbath Bloody Sabbath album, only on Sabra Cadabra, I think. Certainly not on Who Are You anyway, it is either Ozzy or Tony, I believe.
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