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    Posted: March 07 2008 at 11:20
It's too easy to gang up on the top dog. But that's human nature.
The funny part is listening to those who hate the U.S. when it interferes in another country's affairs, say Iraq, because they disagree with the American Gov't. But then will also criticise this same gov't for NOT intervening in another country where the critic believes it is necessary, say Rwanda, if anyone remembers.
THe international community cannot have it both ways. Like it it or not, right or wrong, Bush AND ANY OTHER U.S. PRESIDENT ultimately answer to the american voter, no one else. AND it is common sense that a country will act based on its' own interests, whether or not the rest of us believe it to be so.
I'd love to see soldiers en masse in Afghanistan to properly pacify the country & allow it rebuild & solidify its' society. I would have no problem with the world sending in troops to a few central African countries to quell the diamond wars. I would be leary of any attempt to meddle in civil wars if only because short of a humanitarian crisis, outsiders are rarely in a position to judge who the good guys are.
BUT it too often seems that the Americans are the ones who are at the other end of the pointing finger. Caucasian/white troops in a foreign country ? Easiest target for any rebel group. The enemy is easy to spot because he is not the same colour as you. But , taking the gold & diamond fueled wars in Africa, the African Union is completely unwilling, and in truth, unable to step in. So we blame the U.S. for not doing our bidding.
So ALL TOGETHER NOW - America is the Roman/British empire of our day. With all attendant faults, failings, shortcomings AND successes & superiorities.
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

Getting tired of the term "America" being used to talk about just a part of it. Even if you are not at all thinking about American 
countries of the south, ¿where, according to you, is Mexico? ¿This feeling is anti Mexico as well?.
 
You're right and Ive been starting to be influenced from that way of talking. America goes from Cabo de Hornos to the northerrmost point of Canada and Alaska.... not from Rio Grande to the 5 great Lakes.... But that's what, sadly, has helped to create hostility against the US: the idea thier people (misinformed) have that it's the center of the world...
 
Even saying  North Americans is wrong.. where does that leave Mexicans and Canadians?
 
There you go: another element that feeds the fire against the US in the rest of the world.
 
And this country (US) still has some things that make it a leader, and by far the thing I respect and actually rever the most is the freedom of speech which is absolutely absolute.... Not even in Europe are you free to even say stupid things (like pro-nazi words..). here you are free to be an idiot...
 
Why would a country with such a magnificent premise be hated outside its borders? Agains, ask the leadres, ask history, but also, ask the human nature.... the weak tends to envy the strong.... the poor tends to resent the rich.... (it doesn't help that the rich has actually taken advantage in a few occasions...)

well, freedom of speech is not as absolute as you think. when it comes to freedom of press the USA are only ranked 48 in the list which is published yearly  by "Reporters without Borders". Germany has fallen back from rank 11 to rank 20 due to an incident that took place a little more than a year ago, when the offices of a newspaper were searched by German police.
shared leaders are Iceland and Norway, by the way.
here a link to the list, if you are interested:
http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=24025


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Originally posted by cuncuna cuncuna wrote:

Getting tired of the term "America" being used to talk about just a part of it. Even if you are not at all thinking about American 
countries of the south, ¿where, according to you, is Mexico? ¿This feeling is anti Mexico as well?.
 
You're right and Ive been starting to be influenced from that way of talking. America goes from Cabo de Hornos to the northerrmost point of Canada and Alaska.... not from Rio Grande to the 5 great Lakes.... But that's what, sadly, has helped to create hostility against the US: the idea thier people (misinformed) have that it's the center of the world...
 
Even saying  North Americans is wrong.. where does that leave Mexicans and Canadians?
 
There you go: another element that feeds the fire against the US in the rest of the world.
 
And this country (US) still has some things that make it a leader, and by far the thing I respect and actually rever the most is the freedom of speech which is absolutely absolute.... Not even in Europe are you free to even say stupid things (like pro-nazi words..). here you are free to be an idiot...
 
Why would a country with such a magnificent premise be hated outside its borders? Agains, ask the leadres, ask history, but also, ask the human nature.... the weak tends to envy the strong.... the poor tends to resent the rich.... (it doesn't help that the rich has actually taken advantage in a few occasions...)
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I'm ashamed by what I'm going to say, but many people in my country and other latin american countries thought it was just and fair what happened in 9/11, for example. Leftists hate america and, sadly, that sometimes extends to its people. Sad but true, and in that matter I know, I come from South America and I've been with young people in Universities.
 
Stupidity runs high in pro-farc, anti-yankee south american youth. And the love that Bush is able to provoke in everybody outside the US doesn't help matters... 
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Getting tired of the term "America" being used to talk about just a part of it. Even if you are not at all thinking about American 
countries of the south, ¿where, according to you, is Mexico? ¿This feeling is anti Mexico as well?.

Edited by cuncuna - March 07 2008 at 00:20
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Its true,, normally many people hate the goverment of USA ,BUT dont hate the people..........................................
The people of the other countries normally or in general prefer presidents of democrat party..and hate presidents of republican party
In my country the people in general feel sympathy for USA people..we like the music,sports,culture etc...but not how are some politics ,specially republicans....
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Points: 9226 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2008 at 06:07
I have the feeling that this sentiment is rising continuously...

And we all know that it is against the US government, not the people
(I have never heard of anyone having an 'anti-US people' feeling...Stern%20Smile)

back to the point, this trend might change (or not) depending on the coming US elections
but I believe that this sentiment is justified throughout the world, it can't be just a trend...
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331695,00.html
 
Protesters Storm U.S. Embassy in Serbia and Set Fire Over Kosovo Independence

Rioters stormed the U.S. embassy in Belgrade, Serbia, on Thursday and started a fire in protest of Kosovo's declaration of independence earlier this week.

Masked attackers broke into the building, which has been closed this week, and tried to throw furniture from an office. A blaze broke out inside one of the offices. The neighboring Croatian Embassy also was attacked by the same group.

Crowds outside cheered and chanted, egging the demonstrators on as they stormed the embassy, which was closed at the time and had no police guarding it, Reuters reported.

Riot police drove armored jeeps down the street and fired tear gas to clear the crowd.

U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack on Thursday urged the Serbian government to protect the U.S. Embassy. He said the U.S. ambassador was at his home and was in contact with U.S. officials.
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Points: 20384 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 18 2008 at 05:38
I doin't think Anti-US sentiments are on the rise since the Irak war (that's pretty constant since), but they definitely grew since Bush got to power. The resentment was lesser during the Clinton era.
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Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

I should point out the difference between the 'dislike' of the US government, and the hatred and suspicion so many people, in the UK, have of Muslims. Anti US sentiment, to my knowledge, doesn't manifest itself in hate campaigns, and xenophobic slurs against US citizens, in my country.
 
Perhaps not.  It does in many others....
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Well, certain people love to paint those who are critical of what the US government is doing as being critical of the citizens.  It's a shame that too many people (sheeple?) buy in to this...
 
It's also a shame that people believe those guys who burn American flags and attack fast food franchises because they are associated with America when they claim that some of their best friends are Americans....
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Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I'm an American citizen. I hate the government, hate what our nations come to stand for, and what we do to other countries.
I love sweeping generalizations. Could you be more specific on your last two statements?
 
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I think the fact that the majority of us don't believe in evolution, would never elect an atheist president, and have an FCC that never shuts it's mouth dosn't help either. But America has done a lot in the area of free speech and i'm proud of my country for that.
It is the most confusing mix of ideas ever spoken at once. Free speach is a blessing indeed.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 13 2008 at 07:38
I don't think the expression "Anti-American Sentiment" could ever truly refer to the entire nation, only to its government; it's an unfortunate reality, though, that a country's government & foreign policy is usually the yardstick by which other nations define its inhabitants. Individuals are individuals, no matter where they hail from & I do my best to treat others as I'd want to be treated myself and not to generalise depending upon where they're from...

...unless they're from the north of England though...


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I'm an American citizen. I hate the government, hate what our nations come to stand for, and what we do to other countries. I think the fact that the majority of us don't believe in evolution, would never elect an atheist president, and have an FCC that never shuts it's mouth dosn't help either. But America has done a lot in the area of free speech and i'm proud of my country for that.
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 12 2008 at 05:41
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

I´m more of an anti-republican jejeje. But yes, as somebody said, I am by no means anti-USA but anti - USA current goverment.


...Ah, and America is a continent, not a countryWink

Out of respect for my fellow hemisphere'ers,  I refer to my country as the US rather than America.  America of course has north, south, and central regions.   Maybe those of us on this side of the globe should all unite and turn against those of you on the opposite side just for fun. Tongue 

Damned old worlders. Angry


"The US" isn't accurate either. It's "The United States of America", and ironically this phrase makes the same mistake you're complaining about. Perhaps we should say "USofNA"?Wink


Resolved then, we are now officially the USofNA. Big%20smile
We've all gone, all gone, all gone, all gone, to look for the USofNA.


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Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

One thing disturbs me, and maybe some of you see it as well. I am myself a moderate, politically speaking. I have friends on both sides of the political scope. I get political emails regularly from both sides and well as the standard jokes. I rarely see any of my liberal friends sending questionable or attack emails. On the flip side, I get Muslim/gay/black/liberal bash mail from my conservative friends. Does this coincide with any Anti-American government sentiment? I don't know. It may not be definitive but one thing I take away from it is that my conservative friends are not tolerant. They have sent a message loud and clear to me. And it bothers me.



It may be for completely different reasons. It may be for fear of a defeat. I remember the same was going on in '92 when Clinton got in the lead. Last time it was the other way around. I was getting tons of liberal junk as Kerry began making his funny statements one after the other. So it's seasonal. BTW, I don't get any gay/black bashing mail, thouigh abundance of muslim and liberal
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

I´m more of an anti-republican jejeje. But yes, as somebody said, I am by no means anti-USA but anti - USA current goverment.


...Ah, and America is a continent, not a countryWink

Out of respect for my fellow hemisphere'ers,  I refer to my country as the US rather than America.  America of course has north, south, and central regions.   Maybe those of us on this side of the globe should all unite and turn against those of you on the opposite side just for fun. Tongue 

Damned old worlders. Angry


"The US" isn't accurate either. It's "The United States of America", and ironically this phrase makes the same mistake you're complaining about. Perhaps we should say "USofNA"?Wink
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One thing disturbs me, and maybe some of you see it as well. I am myself a moderate, politically speaking. I have friends on both sides of the political scope. I get political emails regularly from both sides and well as the standard jokes. I rarely see any of my liberal friends sending questionable or attack emails. On the flip side, I get Muslim/gay/black/liberal bash mail from my conservative friends. Does this coincide with any Anti-American government sentiment? I don't know. It may not be definitive but one thing I take away from it is that my conservative friends are not tolerant. They have sent a message loud and clear to me. And it bothers me.



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I should point out the difference between the 'dislike' of the US government, and the hatred and suspicion so many people, in the UK, have of Muslims. Anti US sentiment, to my knowledge, doesn't manifest itself in hate campaigns, and xenophobic slurs against US citizens, in my country.

For myself, I like America and American people, and I'm relying on the US electorate to do the whole world a favour, and vote a Democrat into the Whitehouse. I dont care if it's Clinton or Obama. Personally I think Larry David should be president, but that's another story..
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Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

I´m more of an anti-republican jejeje. But yes, as somebody said, I am by no means anti-USA but anti - USA current goverment.


...Ah, and America is a continent, not a countryWink

Out of respect for my fellow hemisphere'ers,  I refer to my country as the US rather than America.  America of course has north, south, and central regions.   Maybe those of us on this side of the globe should all unite and turn against those of you on the opposite side just for fun. Tongue 

Damned old worlders. Angry


Edited by Slartibartfast - February 09 2008 at 17:53
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