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    Posted: August 24 2007 at 13:12
Originally posted by ZowieZiggy ZowieZiggy wrote:

- I guess that The Who have little reviews because they do not fully belong to this site, so there is less interest in such a band. Same happened with Led Zep (which is also normal on a site like PA).
 
If you look back through the threads about including The Who a couple months ago, you will find abundant reasons for them to fully belong to this site.  The people who objected to their inclusion objected on the basis that they did not play prog (which they did not) but did not recognize their forumulation of many of the elements that were assimilated into what we mean by progressive rock.   The Who fully belongs here, as a PROTO-PROG band.
 
On the other hand, I find it hard to accept Led Zeppelin here even as a minimally prog-related band.
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Several reasons for this :
 
- I guess that The Who have little reviews because they do not fully belong to this site, so there is less interest in such a band. Same happened with Led Zep (which is also normal on a site like PA).
 
Anyway, I like The Who and reviewed all their material available (except a compil or so). So, if you like them (or not), just do the same.
 
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I too like '...Teenage Opera'. I usually find children's choirs irksome as all hell but for some reason, I don't mind it here and it's a wonderful slab of 60s pop, IMHO.
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I have a bit of a soft spot for "Excerpts from a Teenage Opera". I remember hearing it on the radio at the time (showing my age here!).
But I thought they wanted Grocer Jack to come back?
 
Maybe I was confusing Private Eye's Grocer Ted version with the Keith West's Grocer Jack version.......WinkConfusedSleepySleepySleepySleepySleepy
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

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Never heard a Teenage Opera though...


I wouldn't go out of my wayLOL- two singles originally - one got to No 1 in the UK called Excerpt From A Teenage Opera. If I say it was sung by a children's choir backing Keith West of Tomorrow (and is rumoured Steve Howe is in there too) with the most memorial line being Grocer Jack, Grocer Jack Please Don't Come Back , you should get the idea.....British satirists called the then UK Prime Minister Edward Heath (nothing to do with me!!!!) 'Grocer Ted' with some cruel lyrics to the same tune.
 
That bad huh? Of course, you know I NEED to hear it now...
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by willy willy wrote:

^I think what was meant by "genre" as concept album/rock opera.
Townshend regularly reminds people that The Pretty Things' S F Sorrow was his reference point - while Mark Wirtz's Teenage Opera had been started before that (although finished a lot later). And what was Ray Davis of the Kinks doing the meanwhile?
 
 
 
 
SF Sorrow doesn't beat "A Quick One." Never hearda Teenage Opera though...


However, A quick one whilst he's away is in fact several part finished tunes cobbled together at the behest of Kit Lambert demanding the Who (Townshend in particular) get on and finish an album, when the Who didn't have enough 3 or 4 minutes tunes to fill out an LP  - nothing deliberate in creating a concept or an mini-opera -a term  which was an afterthought and joke  on the part of the Who.  The tune gives itself away as several shorter otherwise disocnnected tunes joined together.


it wasn't as haphazard as it might appear though Richard... it wasn't an afterthought as much as a chance to do what Townshend and Lambert had been talking about and wanting to do.. which was an extended piece of music.  As far as disjointed tunes put together....that became a prog standard LOL
 
Yeah, that thing actually surprised me for being so well put together (better than it's spiritual sequel "Rael"). The thing is fairly layered and smooth. And remember, it's not how many movements your sidelong suite is comprised of, it's can you keep the buying public occupied long enough that they don't get bored.
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I have a bit of a soft spot for "Excerpts from a Teenage Opera". I remember hearing it on the radio at the time (showing my age here!).
But I thought they wanted Grocer Jack to come back?
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Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Never heard a Teenage Opera though...


I wouldn't go out of my wayLOL- two singles originally - one got to No 1 in the UK called Excerpt From A Teenage Opera. If I say it was sung by a children's choir backing Keith West of Tomorrow (and is rumoured Steve Howe is in there too) with the most memorial line being Grocer Jack, Grocer Jack Please Don't Come Back , you should get the idea.....British satirists called the then UK Prime Minister Edward Heath (nothing to do with me!!!!) 'Grocer Ted' with some cruel lyrics to the same tune.
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This thread is pointless.
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The Who are awesome
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by willy willy wrote:

^I think what was meant by "genre" as concept album/rock opera.
Townshend regularly reminds people that The Pretty Things' S F Sorrow was his reference point - while Mark Wirtz's Teenage Opera had been started before that (although finished a lot later). And what was Ray Davis of the Kinks doing the meanwhile?
 
 
 
 
SF Sorrow doesn't beat "A Quick One." Never hearda Teenage Opera though...


However, A quick one whilst he's away is in fact several part finished tunes cobbled together at the behest of Kit Lambert demanding the Who (Townshend in particular) get on and finish an album, when the Who didn't have enough 3 or 4 minutes tunes to fill out an LP  - nothing deliberate in creating a concept or an mini-opera -a term  which was an afterthought and joke  on the part of the Who.  The tune gives itself away as several shorter otherwise disocnnected tunes joined together.


it wasn't as haphazard as it might appear though Richard... it wasn't an afterthought as much as a chance to do what Townshend and Lambert had been talking about and wanting to do.. which was an extended piece of music.  As far as disjointed tunes put together....that became a prog standard LOL
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Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by willy willy wrote:

^I think what was meant by "genre" as concept album/rock opera.
Townshend regularly reminds people that The Pretty Things' S F Sorrow was his reference point - while Mark Wirtz's Teenage Opera had been started before that (although finished a lot later). And what was Ray Davis of the Kinks doing the meanwhile?
 
 
 
 
SF Sorrow doesn't beat "A Quick One." Never hearda Teenage Opera though...


However, A quick one whilst he's away is in fact several part finished tunes cobbled together at the behest of Kit Lambert demanding the Who (Townshend in particular) get on and finish an album, when the Who didn't have enough 3 or 4 minutes tunes to fill out an LP  - nothing deliberate in creating a concept or an mini-opera -a term  which was an afterthought and joke  on the part of the Who.  The tune gives itself away as several shorter otherwise disocnnected tunes joined together.
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by willy willy wrote:

^I think what was meant by "genre" as concept album/rock opera.
Townshend regularly reminds people that The Pretty Things' S F Sorrow was his reference point - while Mark Wirtz's Teenage Opera had been started before that (although finished a lot later). And what was Ray Davis of the Kinks doing the meanwhile?
 
 
 
 
SF Sorrow doesn't beat "A Quick One." Never hearda Teenage Opera though...
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Points: 3449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 21:47
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Here we go 'round the mullberry bush...


That was by Traffic wasn't it?
 
You know, I was going to make a reference to that, but then I thought of immaculate consistency.
 
No it was originally a British movie which Traffic and the Spencer Davis Group supplied the music,
 
 
Um, was Stevie two-timing?
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Points: 12815 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 13:10
Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

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Here we go 'round the mullberry bush...


That was by Traffic wasn't it?
 
You know, I was going to make a reference to that, but then I thought of immaculate consistency.
 
No it was originally a British movie which Traffic and the Spencer Davis Group supplied the music,
 
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 13:09
my question would be "votes?" there are no votes here we are rating albums not holding an election
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Points: 12815 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2007 at 13:06
Originally posted by willy willy wrote:

^I think what was meant by "genre" as concept album/rock opera.
Townshend regularly reminds people that The Pretty Things' S F Sorrow was his reference point - while Mark Wirtz's Teenage Opera had been started before that (although finished a lot later). And what was Ray Davis of the Kinks doing the meanwhile?
 
 


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"How come Quadrophenia has only 22 votes?"

I'd ask "How come that The Who are on PA?"
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Originally posted by yetidude yetidude wrote:

Considering The Who basically invented the genre, I'm surprised at the lack of attention. 

Also, Tommy's not even in the Top 100.  And I believe it's the first rock opera.  Should at least get some more props there.  I know the voting system is a bit ascew considering votes going to alot of live/dvd albums.
 
I think Tommy is usually one of a few prog albums that you'll see in Top Rock album of all time lists along with Dark Side of the Moon.
 
Just some odd observants.
1) Quadrophenia may not have many votes (yet) but it's highly rated.
2) Tommy wasn't the first rock opera. The Pretty Things did one before (I forget the name).
3) Tommy isn't really a prog album.
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Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Here we go 'round the mullberry bush...


That was by Traffic wasn't it?
 
You know, I was going to make a reference to that, but then I thought of immaculate consistency.
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