How come Quadrophenia has only 22 votes?
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Topic: How come Quadrophenia has only 22 votes?
Posted By: yetidude
Subject: How come Quadrophenia has only 22 votes?
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 11:31
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Considering The Who basically invented the genre, I'm surprised at the lack of attention. Also, Tommy's not even in the Top 100. And I believe it's the first rock opera. Should at least get some more props there. I know the voting system is a bit ascew considering votes going to alot of live/dvd albums.I think Tommy is usually one of a few prog albums that you'll see in Top Rock album of all time lists along with Dark Side of the Moon.
Just some odd observants.
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 11:32
| Well this is strange. Usually people complain about proto-prog being here. |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 11:34
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When you say "The Genre" do you mean prog? Because if so, you are gravely mistaken. The voting system is not askew. They only have so many REVIEWS (not votes) because they're brand new to the site. And you shouldn't be surprised, because the majority of us here believe that The Who are not a pure prog band, but simply very closely related. |
Posted By: willy
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 21:00
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^I think what was meant by "genre" as concept album/rock opera. ------------- 
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 21:04
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Do you? Because he mentioned "The genre" before he mentioned "rock opera". And Frank Sinatra made the first ever concept album, to be historically accurate. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:14
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Here we go 'round the mullberry bush... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:19
That was by Traffic wasn't it?  ------------- 
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The Whistler wrote:Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 02:22
You know, I was going to make a reference to that, but then I thought of immaculate consistency. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 07:56
1) Quadrophenia may not have many votes (yet) but it's highly rated.
2) Tommy wasn't the first rock opera. The Pretty Things did one before (I forget the name).
3) Tommy isn't really a prog album.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 08:02
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"How come Quadrophenia has only 22 votes?"
I'd ask "How come that The Who are on PA?" 
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 13:06
Townshend regularly reminds people that The Pretty Things' S F Sorrow was his reference point - while Mark Wirtz's Teenage Opera had been started before that (although finished a lot later). And what was Ray Davis of the Kinks doing the meanwhile?
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 13:09
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my question would be "votes?" there are no votes here we are rating albums not holding an election ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 13:10
No it was originally a British movie which Traffic and the Spencer Davis Group supplied the music,
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 21:47
Um, was Stevie two-timing?
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 04:32
SF Sorrow doesn't beat "A Quick One." Never hearda Teenage Opera though... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 08:05
However, A quick one whilst he's away is in fact several part finished tunes cobbled together at the behest of Kit Lambert demanding the Who (Townshend in particular) get on and finish an album, when the Who didn't have enough 3 or 4 minutes tunes to fill out an LP - nothing deliberate in creating a concept or an mini-opera -a term which was an afterthought and joke on the part of the Who. The tune gives itself away as several shorter otherwise disocnnected tunes joined together. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 08:09
it wasn't as haphazard as it might appear though Richard... it wasn't an afterthought as much as a chance to do what Townshend and Lambert had been talking about and wanting to do.. which was an extended piece of music. As far as disjointed tunes put together....that became a prog standard  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 08:09
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The Who are awesome
.......thats all i have to say ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 10:22
| This thread is pointless. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 14:37
I wouldn't go out of my way - two singles originally - one got to No 1 in the UK called Excerpt From A Teenage Opera. If I say it was sung by a children's choir backing Keith West of Tomorrow (and is rumoured Steve Howe is in there too) with the most memorial line being Grocer Jack, Grocer Jack Please Don't Come Back , you should get the idea.....British satirists called the then UK Prime Minister Edward Heath (nothing to do with me!!!!) 'Grocer Ted' with some cruel lyrics to the same tune.------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 16:14
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I have a bit of a soft spot for "Excerpts from a Teenage Opera". I remember hearing it on the radio at the time (showing my age here!). But I thought they wanted Grocer Jack to come back? |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 21:19
Yeah, that thing actually surprised me for being so well put together (better than it's spiritual sequel "Rael"). The thing is fairly layered and smooth. And remember, it's not how many movements your sidelong suite is comprised of, it's can you keep the buying public occupied long enough that they don't get bored. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 21:20
That bad huh? Of course, you know I NEED to hear it now... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 05:40
Maybe I was confusing Private Eye's Grocer Ted version with the Keith West's Grocer Jack version.......    ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 05:50
| I too like '...Teenage Opera'. I usually find children's choirs irksome as all hell but for some reason, I don't mind it here and it's a wonderful slab of 60s pop, IMHO. |
Posted By: ZowieZiggy
Date Posted: August 21 2007 at 19:34
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Several reasons for this :
- I guess that The Who have little reviews because they do not fully belong to this site, so there is less interest in such a band. Same happened with Led Zep (which is also normal on a site like PA).
Anyway, I like The Who and reviewed all their material available (except a compil or so). So, if you like them (or not), just do the same.
Best regards. ------------- ZowieZiggy |
Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: August 24 2007 at 13:12
If you look back through the threads about including The Who a couple months ago, you will find abundant reasons for them to fully belong to this site. The people who objected to their inclusion objected on the basis that they did not play prog (which they did not) but did not recognize their forumulation of many of the elements that were assimilated into what we mean by progressive rock. The Who fully belongs here, as a PROTO-PROG band.
On the other hand, I find it hard to accept Led Zeppelin here even as a minimally prog-related band.
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