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The Miracle
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Topic: Need Recommendations (2007 releases) (DISSONANCE!) Posted: September 09 2007 at 19:32 |
Try Ground Zero for a really great mix of Merzbow-like abrasive noise electronics and a full avant garde band.
Not prog, but I strongly recommend Wolf Eyes... their debut Dread and Burned Mind are exactly what you're looking for, obtuse, dense noise electronics mixed with slow stoner rock... really dark and awesome stuff. Edited by The Miracle - September 09 2007 at 19:33 |
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ProgBagel
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 13 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2819 |
Posted: September 09 2007 at 19:25 |
Maybe some Townsend?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: September 05 2007 at 02:48 |
Check out Ion Dissonance - don't know if they've been mentioned yet.
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mecca
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 22 2006 Status: Offline Points: 213 |
Posted: September 04 2007 at 20:50 |
Any new disgusting albums released I'm not aware of?
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mecca
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Posted: July 16 2007 at 12:44 |
Car Bomb f**king rules so far, the time signatures are crazy. Also, another reason why I like dissonance is because "ugly" music most of the time sounds a bit more unique than the consonant songwriting, not that I don't like consonant music, but the word "dissonance" to me, just means "more interesting". And also, I'm going to make sure to check the above recommendations as well, I'm not forgetting them, haha. Thank you! You have like 8 albums, what a goldmine! Thanks again! Edited by mecca - July 16 2007 at 12:53 |
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Barla
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Posted: July 15 2007 at 11:59 |
For dissonant music, definitely PRIMUS! Dissonant riffs and solos, weird vocals, and amazing "in your face" bass. I was listening to Sailing The Seas Of Cheese yesterday, and remembered how good it is. I ought to get some more stuff like this! |
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chamberry
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Posted: July 13 2007 at 14:02 |
^^^ That sounds interesting as well. I'll check that out.
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progreviews
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 21 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 271 |
Posted: July 13 2007 at 13:49 |
Glad to see this thread is back on track after a pointless exercise in categorization and pigeonholing.
Mecca, I know you don't like the heavy stuff so much, but there is an extreme metal album from 2007 that's as dissonant and out-there as any avant-rock I've ever heard: Car Bomb's Centralia. The riffs on this one are just shockingly ugly (and awesome). Like a grindcore version of Gorguts' avant-metal classic of a decade ago, Obscura. Lots of harsh screaming and heavy riffs, so if you don't like metal be warned - but if you want ugly and dissonant give it a chance. Also, this kind of metal is super-super-tight, like Ahleuchatistas et al. No noodling or improv here. |
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Apsalar
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Posted: July 11 2007 at 08:41 |
What may this be? I have not seen this release. I know Kneale has done three other albums this year, I don't think they have been released yet, not sure. Last year was stunning for him with Our Love Will Destroy the World and Curved Surface Destroyer; the later being one of my favourite B.C.M. albums. |
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anael
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Posted: July 10 2007 at 02:08 |
Ashtray Navigations. Throw Up In The Sky/With Fine Clinking Magnets (2007)
Ignatz. II (2007) Birchville Cat Motel. Three Sparkling Echoes (Sparkling Echoes In The Invisible Alsatian Garden) (2007) Hassara. Backyard I-III (2007) Egypt Is The Magick #. The Valentine Process (2007) Quetzolcoatl. Forever Bleeding Canyon Cloud (2007) Kiss The Anus Of A Black Cat. An Interlude To The Outermost (2007) if you like psychedelic-drones |
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mecca
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 22 2006 Status: Offline Points: 213 |
Posted: July 08 2007 at 21:39 |
Anymore albums this year of dissonance? I don't have many "ugly" albums from this year so far, but there has to be more out there, there absolutely has to be! Dissonant albums from this year I have:
Alamaailman Vasarat - Maahan Deerhoof - Friend Opportunity Holy Molar - Cavity Search Kiss Kiss - Reality Vs. The Optimist Locust - New Erections Shining - Grindstone Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - In Glorious Times Tera Melos - Drugs to our Dear Youth Tin Hat - The Sad Machinery of Spring Upsilon Acrux - Galapagos Momentum Zs - Arms A couple of those were recommendations from you guys, maybe that list will give some of you some suggestions too. But I would definitely appreciate some more recommendations. And relatively tight compositions would be nice as well (I'm not one for improv and noodling). |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 18 2007 at 02:32 |
^ you can try to tag their albums on my website ... it would be interesting to see the resulting genre label!
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:59 |
Taal however have dissonance and weirdness in bounds, so of course they're not just a melodic band.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:14 |
^ sure, but the melodic parts aren't what makes the bands Avant Prog ... on the other hand remove the dissonant/weird elements, and they're not really Avant anymore. The melodic parts provide an interesting contrast though!
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:11 |
Oh I agree Mike, that's why I would like to move them (back?) to Avant-Prog, as I feel they don't quite belong under Art Rock (even though the ART have know issues with them there).
To me, Avant-Prog can be melodic, much of Zappa's releases are for instance. Infact, many chamber rock bands are melodic in many respects. Melody and major notes do have a place in Avant-Prog, as far as I am concerned. |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:07 |
^^ But like many bands in Art Rock they have an obvious affinity to Avant-Prog ...
Edited by MikeEnRegalia - June 17 2007 at 13:08 |
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chamberry
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:07 |
The first thing that came to my mind when I heard melodic Avant-Prog I thought Hella's new album, There's No 666 In Outer Space. It's a very accessible album and they still have that crazy playing of Zach and Hill, but now a bit more restrained.
You should check it out, Mike. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:01 |
Taal are Art Rock, Mike.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:00 |
Of course if you define Avant-Prog to include bands like Taal then there are melodic Avant-Prog bands.
In that case I think that these bands are borderline Avant ... the more melodic/harmonic the music is, the less Avant. |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 17 2007 at 12:57 |
Taal are not exactly dissonant, but I have heard they have a new album coming out later this year, but apparently they've shrunk in size somewhat..
All has been said really. Of course, there's always the Japanese brutal/noise scene. I am sure you're aware of Boris and Merzbow and even Boredoms. Not a recent album, but try Musica Transonic - Orthodox Jazz That album hurt my ears! The band features Tatsuya Yoshida (Ruins), Kawabata Makoto (Acid Mothers Temple) and Asahito Nanjo (High Rise). I believe their other albums maybe a bit more listenable. I received my copy of Mahaan a few days ago and expect to spin it soon, as like you, I love that band. |
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