Need Recommendations (2007 releases) (DISSONANCE!)
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Topic: Need Recommendations (2007 releases) (DISSONANCE!)
Posted By: mecca
Subject: Need Recommendations (2007 releases) (DISSONANCE!)
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 19:47
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I'm looking for heavily dissonant music, and I haven't been in much success finding new music with this characteristic. If you don't know what I mean by dissonance, I mean anything that's music is "ugly", this doesn't mean it has to be the heaviest of heavy metal, not at all, I don't care for the heaviness whatsoever. Bands that I'd say follow what I'm talking about: Sleepytime Gorilla Museum, The Paper Chase, Flat Earth Society (jazz, not the hardcore band), Frank Zappa, Shining, 5UU's, etc. If you still have no idea what I'm talking about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consonance_and_dissonance I basically want melodies that are "unpleasant" and "grating", and specifically new. Again, this doesn't mean I need constant screaming in the music, it just has to be dissonant. |
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 20:04
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Next 3 posts are albums from 2007 like you asked:
Try http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=3017 - Rational Diet (you can read my review if you wish)
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 20:08
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http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14801 - Compassionizer by Roz Vitalis (again read my review)
How about Upsilon Acrux - Galapagos Momentum?
http://www.myspace.com/upsilonacrux - http://www.myspace.com/upsilonacrux
Ahleuchatistas will release a new album later this year - Even in the Midst...
http://www.myspace.com/ahleuchatistas - http://www.myspace.com/ahleuchatistas
Hella - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14344 - There's No 666 In Outer Space
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 20:10
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Haven't heard it yet but Runaway Totem released a new one this year - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15183 - Esameron ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 20:12
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Thanks man! Ahleuchatistas are great, I love What You Will. I'm not a big fan of the new Hella album, though, but I'll check out the others later tonight. Thanks again. :) Jesus, Runaway Totem is f**king great. Now I'm liking Upsilon Acrux even more. :) |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 20:34
| You might like Univers Zéro, Présent and Art Zoyd. Heavily dissonant at times, and very lovely if you're into that kind of stuff (which obviously you are). Etron Fou Leloublan might also be your kind of thing. |
Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: June 15 2007 at 23:02
| Yes, all those are incredible. |
Posted By: Speesh
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 00:51
| Would Mr. Bungle - Disco Volante fit into this category? I guess that's pretty tough listening in the vein of Sleepytime Gorilla Museum. Some elements of the band are often compared. Anyway that one's good and their self-titled should be good as well, but I haven't heard that yet. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 02:44
Try the Fantomas debut, Secret Chiefs 3, and the John Zorn trilogy Moonchild/Astronome/Heliogabalus.
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Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 04:01
| I have yet to hear Heliogabalus, I never knew it existed?! I'll check that immediately. Fantomas, SC3, and Mr. Bungle are also all great. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 12:38
It's from 2005, but this is a recent album I discovered that I've been blown away. It's not for everyone, but you seem like a guy that would enjoy it: http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/display.php?rev=orth-ov - Orthrelm - Ov Also check out: http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/display.php?rev=zs-buck - Zs - Buck . Here are some samples: http://www.zzzsss.com/audio.html - http://www.zzzsss.com/audio.html I haven't heard much releases from this year so I can't help you as much as I would like to, but Avestin's recommendation should do the trick. ------------- 
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mecca wrote:Posted By: progreviews
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 14:44
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Try these 2007 releases:
Cato Salsa Experience & The Thing with Joe McPhee - Two Bands and a Legend - a free jazz trio collaborating with a garage-rock band = awesome! great mix of noisy improv and hard rock. Nels Cline, Andrea Parkins & Tom Rainey - Downpour - just noisy improv here, Nels Cline's guitar work is jaw-dropping and Tom Rainey is my current favorite drummer. Upsilon Acrux - Galapagos Momentum - if you like Ahleuchatistas, you'll like this album. they've dropped the Moog and are now a lean, mean dual guitar-bass-drums quartet. Zs - Arms - maybe my favorite current avant-rock band, tough to describe but my review of Buck (a 2006 release) linked to by chamberry tells most of the story. ------------- http://www.progreviews.com/"> 
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 15:06
^^^ Your reviews are very helpful, Brandon.  I liked the Moog in Upsilon Acux's relreases, but it would definitely be interesting to hear them without that playful touch the Moog gave them. -------------
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Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 19:44
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Thanks, you guys, I'm listening to Zs right now, and Jesus Christ, this is exclusively what I wanted. I'll be sure to check the others as well! THANKKKKKKKSSS! Oh and if anyone's interested, I've also finally found Maahan by Alamaailman Vasarat today, it's great, I've always liked the band, but their stuff is sometimes hard to find. I'm glad I found it, it's dissonant, so it pertains to this topic and it was released this year as well. ;) |
Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 20:15
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Captain Beefheart - Troutmask replica. ------------- |
Posted By: Fight Club
Date Posted: June 16 2007 at 21:20
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Mr. Bungle and Magma are pretty dissonant. Anything avant gard could be considered dissonant too I guess. ------------- 
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 10:09
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Try the new album from Aa (big A little a). Awesome stuff! ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 11:36
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Two more recommendations - not from 2007, but still: Guapo - Five Suns (2003) http://www.guapo.co.uk/audio/fivesuns_ii_smpl.mp3 - Sample Miasma & The Carousel of Headless Horses - Perils (2005) http://www.webofmimicry.com/audioWoM/miasma/the-mage.mp3 - Sample ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 12:44
A big misconception here. Not all avant-garde is dissonant. -------------
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 12:46
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^ maybe not dissonant, but not exactly melodic either ... at least I can't think of any obvious examples of "melodic/harmonic Avant-Prog".
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 12:52
Panzerpappa
Pochakaite Malko
Parts of Yugen's Labirinto D'acqua
There's more I'm sure, but I can't think of right now.
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French TV
Some Estradasphere
There are examples of those harmonic/melodic parts in other bands, but not as a general sound of the album, but they do appear in songs, either throughout the songs, or in parts of a song.
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 12:57
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Taal are not exactly dissonant, but I have heard they have a new album coming out later this year, but apparently they've shrunk in size somewhat.. All has been said really. Of course, there's always the Japanese brutal/noise scene. I am sure you're aware of Boris and Merzbow and even Boredoms. Not a recent album, but try Musica Transonic - Orthodox Jazz That album hurt my ears! The band features Tatsuya Yoshida (Ruins), Kawabata Makoto (Acid Mothers Temple) and Asahito Nanjo (High Rise). I believe their other albums maybe a bit more listenable. I received my copy of Mahaan a few days ago and expect to spin it soon, as like you, I love that band. -------------   
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:00
Of course if you define Avant-Prog to include bands like Taal then there are melodic Avant-Prog bands. In that case I think that these bands are borderline Avant ... the more melodic/harmonic the music is, the less Avant.  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:01
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Taal are Art Rock, Mike.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:07
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The first thing that came to my mind when I heard melodic Avant-Prog I thought Hella's new album, There's No 666 In Outer Space. It's a very accessible album and they still have that crazy playing of Zach and Hill, but now a bit more restrained. You should check it out, Mike. -------------
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:07
^^ But like many bands in Art Rock they have an obvious affinity to Avant-Prog ... 
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:11
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Oh I agree Mike, that's why I would like to move them (back?) to Avant-Prog, as I feel they don't quite belong under Art Rock (even though the ART have know issues with them there). To me, Avant-Prog can be melodic, much of Zappa's releases are for instance. Infact, many chamber rock bands are melodic in many respects. Melody and major notes do have a place in Avant-Prog, as far as I am concerned. -------------
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:14
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^ sure, but the melodic parts aren't what makes the bands Avant Prog ... on the other hand remove the dissonant/weird elements, and they're not really Avant anymore. The melodic parts provide an interesting contrast though!
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: June 17 2007 at 13:59
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Taal however have dissonance and weirdness in bounds, so of course they're not just a melodic band.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 18 2007 at 02:32
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^ you can try to tag their albums on my website ... it would be interesting to see the resulting genre label!
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Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: July 08 2007 at 21:39
Anymore albums this year of dissonance? I don't have many "ugly" albums from this year so far, but there has to be more out there, there absolutely has to be!  Dissonant albums from this year I have:Alamaailman Vasarat - Maahan Deerhoof - Friend Opportunity Holy Molar - Cavity Search Kiss Kiss - Reality Vs. The Optimist Locust - New Erections Shining - Grindstone Sleepytime Gorilla Museum - In Glorious Times Tera Melos - Drugs to our Dear Youth Tin Hat - The Sad Machinery of Spring Upsilon Acrux - Galapagos Momentum Zs - Arms A couple of those were recommendations from you guys, maybe that list will give some of you some suggestions too. But I would definitely appreciate some more recommendations. And relatively tight compositions would be nice as well (I'm not one for improv and noodling). |
Posted By: anael
Date Posted: July 10 2007 at 02:08
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Ashtray Navigations. Throw Up In The Sky/With Fine Clinking Magnets (2007) Ignatz. II (2007) Birchville Cat Motel. Three Sparkling Echoes (Sparkling Echoes In The Invisible Alsatian Garden) (2007) Hassara. Backyard I-III (2007) Egypt Is The Magick #. The Valentine Process (2007) Quetzolcoatl. Forever Bleeding Canyon Cloud (2007) Kiss The Anus Of A Black Cat. An Interlude To The Outermost (2007) if you like psychedelic-drones ------------- 
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: July 11 2007 at 08:41
What may this be? I have not seen this release. I know Kneale has done three other albums this year, I don't think they have been released yet, not sure. Last year was stunning for him with Our Love Will Destroy the World and Curved Surface Destroyer; the later being one of my favourite B.C.M. albums. |
Posted By: progreviews
Date Posted: July 13 2007 at 13:49
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Glad to see this thread is back on track after a pointless exercise in categorization and pigeonholing.
Mecca, I know you don't like the heavy stuff so much, but there is an extreme metal album from 2007 that's as dissonant and out-there as any avant-rock I've ever heard: Car Bomb's http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/display.php?rev=cb-cen - Centralia . The riffs on this one are just shockingly ugly (and awesome). Like a grindcore version of Gorguts' avant-metal classic of a decade ago, Obscura. Lots of harsh screaming and heavy riffs, so if you don't like metal be warned - but if you want ugly and dissonant give it a chance. Also, this kind of metal is super-super-tight, like Ahleuchatistas et al. No noodling or improv here. ------------- http://www.progreviews.com/">
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 13 2007 at 14:02
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^^^ That sounds interesting as well. I'll check that out. -------------
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: July 15 2007 at 11:59
For dissonant music, definitely PRIMUS! Dissonant riffs and solos, weird vocals, and amazing "in your face" bass.  I was listening to Sailing The Seas Of Cheese yesterday, and remembered how good it is. I ought to get some more stuff like this! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">  
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Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: July 16 2007 at 12:44
Car Bomb f**king rules so far, the time signatures are crazy. Also, another reason why I like dissonance is because "ugly" music most of the time sounds a bit more unique than the consonant songwriting, not that I don't like consonant music, but the word "dissonance" to me, just means "more interesting". And also, I'm going to make sure to check the above recommendations as well, I'm not forgetting them, haha. Thank you! You have like 8 albums, what a goldmine! Thanks again! |
Posted By: mecca
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 20:50
| Any new disgusting albums released I'm not aware of? |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 02:48
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Check out Ion Dissonance - don't know if they've been mentioned yet.
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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 19:25
| Maybe some Townsend? |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 19:32
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Try Ground Zero for a really great mix of Merzbow-like abrasive noise electronics and a full avant garde band. Not prog, but I strongly recommend Wolf Eyes... their debut Dread and Burned Mind are exactly what you're looking for, obtuse, dense noise electronics mixed with slow stoner rock... really dark and awesome stuff. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |