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    Posted: April 08 2007 at 16:02
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Gee, I didn't know Genesis were *that* old ... a clear case for "Withered Prog".Wink
Yeah their first album was written in 1837, the same year that Steve Vai sold his soul to the devil...
 
 
 
Returning on-topic, there is nothing wrong with members of this site inventing new genres of prog...certianly if we are (to be the) NO1 prog site on the internet we should be leading the way, not self-conciously looking over opur shoulders at what others are doing and saying.
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^ Gee, I didn't know Genesis were *that* old ... a clear case for "Withered Prog".Wink
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2007 at 15:35
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ well, at least here at PA I rarely hear the phrase "Nu Prog" ... Wink
 
I dont read "antidisestablishmentarianism" here much either..but....Wink
Originally posted by MikeEnMechanics MikeEnMechanics wrote:

that's because Prince George is rarely posting here (and he would have gotten it wrong, but there's no Black Adder here either).Wink
 
 
Its a proper word (seriously) and was much in use in the 19th century when Genesis released their debut album and the only death metal was the lead used to make pipes for their plumbing...Tongue


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I like the New Prog tag, it's useful when discussing Indie bands with Prog-ish moments and/or influences. I don't consider it a valid subgenre of Prog Rock however, because many of the bands that are commonly labelled New Prog are vastly different from each other and because most of them aren't really Prog Rock, even if they are influenced by it and incorporates Prog elements in their music.

In my opinion, New Prog is, just like Prog Rock was in the beginning, a kind of movement rather than a distinct style.



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^ that's because Prince George is rarely posting here (and he would have gotten it wrong, but there's no Black Adder here either).Wink
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ well, at least here at PA I rarely hear the phrase "Nu Prog" ... Wink
 
I dont read "antidisestablishmentarianism" here much either..but....Wink
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^ well, at least here at PA I rarely hear the phrase "Nu Prog" ... Wink
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Points: 11979 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 08 2007 at 15:00
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Nu-Prog's a reasonable title. Just because you dont agree with the bands named doesnt mean its a bad idea.
NU-Prog....Muse,Radiohead et al...why the heck not?

Because neither Muse nor Radiohead sound anything like Limp Bizkuit or Linkin Park.Smile
 
I dont see the relevance of that statement. Nu Jazz bands dont sound like Limp Bizkit either...Confused
 
 


I don't think that there are many people who use the term "Nu Jazz" either. There are some (I found the wikipedia page), but in essence it simply means "New Jazz". The word "Nu" was first and foremost used for a particular style of metal in the 1990s ... of course you can simply define "Nu" as "1990s", I just don't see the point.
 
The point is Mike that you might not know many people who use that term yourself but, for example, Dick Heath who writes for Jazzwise magazine uses it....
 
...horses for courses and all that....I dont know many people who speak German, but I am damn sure there is at least 85 million people who do...Wink
 
 
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Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Nu-Prog's a reasonable title. Just because you dont agree with the bands named doesnt mean its a bad idea.
NU-Prog....Muse,Radiohead et al...why the heck not?

Because neither Muse nor Radiohead sound anything like Limp Bizkuit or Linkin Park.Smile
 
I dont see the relevance of that statement. Nu Jazz bands dont sound like Limp Bizkit either...Confused
 
 


I don't think that there are many people who use the term "Nu Jazz" either. There are some (I found the wikipedia page), but in essence it simply means "New Jazz". The word "Nu" was first and foremost used for a particular style of metal in the 1990s ... of course you can simply define "Nu" as "1990s", I just don't see the point.
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

Nu-Prog's a reasonable title. Just because you dont agree with the bands named doesnt mean its a bad idea.
NU-Prog....Muse,Radiohead et al...why the heck not?

Because neither Muse nor Radiohead sound anything like Limp Bizkuit or Linkin Park.Smile
 
I dont see the relevance of that statement. Nu Jazz bands dont sound like Limp Bizkit either...Confused
 
 


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Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

do you have any idea of how hard it would be to rap over anything not in 4/4, didn't think so.LOL

It looks like you guys haven't heard of the Anticon label where Indie Rap galores (not really prog rap, but I can't think of another thing closer to it)

Subtle has a song not in 4/4 and it sounds pretty proggy if you ask me. The song is called Middleclass Stomp.

And for the Indie Rap I'm talking about then check out Subtle - A New White. I assure you you'll never in your life think that Rap was going to get this far.

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Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

I know, it kills me. MCR has the balls to compare themselves to Pink Floyd.
 
and yes prog rap might be better, the turntables never reached thier full potental as an actual instrument, There are some more prog-ish rappers out there, but they would never call themselves prog.


The sheer audacity for one to formally compare themselves....it speaks volumes about what they don't know.

I won't give myself any acknowledge of the turntable reference, merely because I don't know. Percussively...it COULD be a challenge. But it has limits.

And I agree. Any rapper self-fulling would never consider himself/herself prog.  But that shows where the artist dies.




edited for selfish font reasons.........


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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2007 at 15:48
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Ok that last site scared the flying F*** out of me, what does Panic! at the disco have to do with prog. Shoot me now.Dead



Well, I wonder if the drama factor sometimes could be mistaken for progressive.  Spin magazine had the balls to call My Chemical Romance the new Queen.
 
I know, it kills me. MCR has the balls to compare themselves to Pink Floyd.
 
and yes prog rap might be better, the turntables never reached thier full potental as an actual instrument, There are some more prog-ish rappers out there, but they would never call themselves prog.
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Points: 4079 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2007 at 15:32
Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

do you have any idea of how hard it would be to rap over anything not in 4/4, didn't think so.LOL


All the more reason for it to be Prog! Takes serious talent, not just inflective recital, yes? Wink

Actually, I am not a big fan of rap, but Prog rap could change that. Embarrassed
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Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Ok that last site scared the flying F*** out of me, what does Panic! at the disco have to do with prog. Shoot me now.Dead



Well, I wonder if the drama factor sometimes could be mistaken for progressive.  Spin magazine had the balls to call My Chemical Romance the new Queen.
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Ok that last site scared the flying F*** out of me, what does Panic! at the disco have to do with prog. Shoot me now.Dead
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Points: 4079 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2007 at 14:53
I did some Googling. Another link to nu-prog?
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nu-prog

Nu Prog Fusion?
http://www.bigbangmethod.com/
(These guys are good)

Uh-oh...emo and nu prog in the same playlist??
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Standing-against-backlash-Emo-Prog/lm/R6GYNZDC72CRU
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2007 at 14:51
^^^
well, that does sound like nu metal.
He cant rap that well, but hey, no white man can.LOL
 
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^ Pain of Salvation - Used. You can listen to the track for free on their website!
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Points: 1882 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 07 2007 at 14:46
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by Proletariat Proletariat wrote:

Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ unfortunately none of these bands sound like or are influenced by Nu Metal, which makes it even worse.


And it makes it worse how? Confused
 
well, nu metal was esentually metal + alternative + rap
nu prog is (according to the article) prog + alternative and i hope not + RapCryLOLLOL


OK...like a prog Linkin Park? Sounds decent to me.
do you have any idea of how hard it would be to rap over anything not in 4/4, didn't think so.LOL
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