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Moogtron III
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Topic: Comparing swedish Bands Posted: April 05 2007 at 18:59 |
Don't know Opeth, so I won't vote.
Abba is not progressive, not even when they conjugated songs together. Even Chess, Björn and Benny's concept album / rock opera, is not progressive. You can only stretch the word "progressive" to a certain point.
Very talented songwriters, though, Björn and Benny. A musicologist once studied the way they opened their Abba songs, and that was always different. I don't listen to their albums, but I respect them.
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The T
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 18:39 |
Kylie minogue hasn't yet performed an Opeth song, but she has an Abba song, so I guess I'll change my vote.... ABBA!!!
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Frasse
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 18:36 |
ABBA? No way, no way at all, absolutely no way at all.
ABBA won the Eurovision Song Contest 1974 with Waterloo which probably is why the (partly prog swedish) Movement loathed them.
Dancing Queen of 76 was their biggest hit (Their only no. 1 in US) and after that they did a Disco record.
Well crafted Pop music (Which you don't see too much of these days.) but nothing more really. Opeth can suck as much as they wan't, they are still much more prog than ABBA.
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Samir
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:53 |
The funny thing is that ABBA has more votes than Opeth until now, i know people are not taking this poll seriously, anyway, i would also vote for ABBA
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:07 |
Well I liked Agnetta and Annafried, that's all I can say aout ABBA.,
Always saw the in the James Last Show
The only musical program we had back in the 70's
Iván
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Drew
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:34 |
What the hell? Abba?
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The T
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:33 |
Harkmark wrote:
As for Opeth: check out Damnation and tell me that this is not prog. Or listen to "The drapery falls" on their page here. This is a totally pointless discussion. |
Not really... Listen to "Ghost Reveries", listen to "Ghost of Perdition", see how they work out themes and the relation between all of them, it's a 10/10 song, first time I heard it it was like "what???" because the structure is so damn ab-normal... After like 5 listens, I realized that was THE song in the death-prog-metal field....And to top that, the acoustic moments and Akerfeldt's strangely sedated and narcotic, yet very satisfying voice, and even his growling is among the best of all growlings.... Opeth's last album is a 4/5 star, maybe a 4.5. Damnation is excellent too. The earlier ones haven't yet gotten to me....
Abba, on the other shore, has... Dancing Queen. Which was wonderfully performed, not by the original band, in the 2000 Olympics in Sidney.....
Abba was very close to "prog-pop" (whatever the hell that means ), but please don't put them alongside Opeth... if someone doesn't like the not-so-strong Christian values of Ak, well, I suggest Neal Morse or even better, Mayhem.
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:26 |
OpethGuitarist wrote:
opeth is terrible they just scream about death and killing baby jesus's |
I rather prefer Incantation's "Mortal throne of the Nazarene" or Impaled Nazarene for that matter...
By the way, f**k these two... get REO Speedwagon on the Archives!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only thing I'd agree about this thread, and I think noone has ointed that out, ABBA was better to look at than Opeth... I mean, Akerfeldt is not my type...
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chessman
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:13 |
Abba!
Without a doubt!
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:07 |
I PREFER EUROPE!!!
The Europe in concert is a Nuclear Bomb!!!
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Wuschel
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:01 |
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KeleCableII
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:58 |
"Dancing Queen" is <i>the</i> prog song. Obviously influenced Pain of Salvation into making "Disco Queen," a tribute to the greatness/progginess of Abba.
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:54 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
I'm not aan Opeth fan, but isn't this comparison out of place?????
What the hell has ABBA to do in Prog Archives????
Please move this poll to.......ehem...to......
Hey is there a silly polls forum?
Iván |
I think the point he is making is that Opeth are not prog and neither are Abba. Thats what I think anyway....
Edited by Snow Dog - April 05 2007 at 15:54
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:51 |
I'm not aan Opeth fan, but isn't this comparison out of place?????
What the hell has ABBA to do in Prog Archives????
Please move this poll to.......ehem...to......
Hey is there a silly polls forum?
Iván
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CrazyDiamond
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:45 |
Ohhh and, because of the anti - Opeth situation, I might add this:
Opeth logo isn't original, they copied it from the well known chips logo:
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:39 |
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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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CrazyDiamond
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:37 |
Who is bothering you?
You started a "war" , so pay the consequences!
Anyway I have an important question: why do people spend much of their time bashing bands they don't like? I mean, f**k, you don't like Pink Floyd, why saying Pink Floyd are f**kin' crap? Just don't listen.
You hate Dream Theater? Why wastin' time doin' a one star review on Images and Words? Just take your cd and put it in your basket case!
Ehy Wushel this isn't directed to you but it's a general consideration I made here, because of some recent reviews I've recently seen here.
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Wuschel
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:22 |
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:14 |
CrazyDiamond wrote:
progismylife wrote:
Um what is the point of this poll? |
as he said. |
Yes, this is a ridiculous poll. Abba of course. Opeth aren't Prog in the least. Erm, well, that's not quite true. The death grunts are quintessentially Prog, but other than the growling, not proggy at all..
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Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:51 |
opeth are terrible it's just gangsters talking over a sampled beat
so i voted for abba
lol it's been a pleasure doing business with this thread
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