Comparing swedish Bands
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Topic: Comparing swedish Bands
Posted By: Wuschel
Subject: Comparing swedish Bands
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 13:24
I put two famous swedish bands into that poll,which one do you think deserves more to be in the archives?
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 13:29
Um what is the point of this poll?
I vote Opeth. But it is in the archives already.
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Posted By: proggy
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:10
This is like what is better mustard: French's or Gulden's......
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:10
progismylife wrote:
Um what is the point of this poll? |
as he said.
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Posted By: Wuschel
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:20
progismylife wrote:
Um what is the point of this poll?
I vote Opeth. But it is in the archives already.
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Can you please give your reasons, why you think that Opeth are more prog than ABBA?
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:25
Uhm.. but Wuschel, I can't understand you:
Are you "suggesting" (not in an explicit way) to put Abba in the Archives because, as they are Swedish like Opeth, and maybe they sound more prog than Opeth to you (do you like Opeth, anyway?), they deserve to be here. Right ?
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Posted By: Wuschel
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:35
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:38
opeth is terrible they just scream about death and killing baby jesus's
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Posted By: Wuschel
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:41
OpethGuitarist wrote:
opeth is terrible they just scream about death and killing baby jesus's |
Immortal are nothing better *looks at your avatar*
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:42
OpethGuitarist wrote:
opeth is terrible they just scream about death and killing baby jesus's |
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:44
Yeah but.. well... this is an old question, I think you should ask the Symph Prog team or something like that. Even if you got a 100 to 1 result in the poll, I don't think that counts so much (IMHO).
By the way, I like Abba, but I don't think they are prog. Good Swedish pop is all you will get from me.
Man but do you really think Abba is prog? Seriously ? Opeth are fantastic, I won't explain the reasons why they're here, because I think it's boring and everybody knows it.
Maybe Abba could be here as prog related... uhm.....
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Posted By: Harkmark
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:44
Well...abba is mainly a disco/pop band. They started out sounding like some average Swedish "dansband" . Some progressive elements in a couple of songs, maybe, but not prog. Btw they were one of the biggest hate objects of the Swedish prog scene in the seventies. Some songs with potential for being good, but with arrangements that are a total failure imo.
Waterlooo, waterloo ...
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Posted By: Harkmark
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:46
As for Opeth: check out Damnation and tell me that this is not prog. Or listen to "The drapery falls" on their page here. This is a totally pointless discussion.
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:51
opeth are terrible it's just gangsters talking over a sampled beat
so i voted for abba
lol it's been a pleasure doing business with this thread
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:14
Posted By: Wuschel
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:22
Please stop bothering me with music from those guys spending all
their day shaking their heads like epileptics,drinking beer and
watching cannibal movies
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:37
Who is bothering you?
You started a "war" , so pay the consequences!
Anyway I have an important question: why do people spend much of their time bashing bands they don't like? I mean, f**k, you don't like Pink Floyd, why saying Pink Floyd are f**kin' crap? Just don't listen.
You hate Dream Theater? Why wastin' time doin' a one star review on Images and Words? Just take your cd and put it in your basket case!
Ehy Wushel this isn't directed to you but it's a general consideration I made here, because of some recent reviews I've recently seen here.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:39
Wuschel wrote:
Please stop bothering me with music from those guys spending all
their day shaking their heads like epileptics,drinking beer and
watching cannibal movies
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What on earth are you on about?
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Posted By: CrazyDiamond
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:45
Ohhh and, because of the anti - Opeth situation, I might add this:
Opeth logo isn't original, they copied it from the well known chips logo:
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:51
I'm not aan Opeth fan, but isn't this comparison out of place?????
What the hell has ABBA to do in Prog Archives????
Please move this poll to.......ehem...to......
Hey is there a silly polls forum?
Iván
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:54
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
I'm not aan Opeth fan, but isn't this comparison out of place?????
What the hell has ABBA to do in Prog Archives????
Please move this poll to.......ehem...to......
Hey is there a silly polls forum?
Iván |
I think the point he is making is that Opeth are not prog and neither are Abba. Thats what I think anyway....
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Posted By: KeleCableII
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 15:58
"Dancing Queen" is <i>the</i> prog song. Obviously influenced Pain of Salvation into making "Disco Queen," a tribute to the greatness/progginess of Abba.
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Posted By: Wuschel
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:01
No,no , NO!
II just want to know ,which swedish band ,you think to proggier...'cause I'm not all that sure myself ,which is
Hell, even Mike Oldfield covered Abba!
And "the album " features a three-song-suite! Of course they belong here!
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:07
I PREFER EUROPE!!!
The Europe in concert is a Nuclear Bomb!!!
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Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:13
Abba!
Without a doubt!
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:26
OpethGuitarist wrote:
opeth is terrible they just scream about death and killing baby jesus's |
I rather prefer Incantation's "Mortal throne of the Nazarene" or Impaled Nazarene for that matter...
By the way, f**k these two... get REO Speedwagon on the Archives!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only thing I'd agree about this thread, and I think noone has ointed that out, ABBA was better to look at than Opeth... I mean, Akerfeldt is not my type...
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:33
Harkmark wrote:
As for Opeth: check out Damnation and tell me that this is not prog. Or listen to "The drapery falls" on their page here. This is a totally pointless discussion. |
Not really... Listen to "Ghost Reveries", listen to "Ghost of Perdition", see how they work out themes and the relation between all of them, it's a 10/10 song, first time I heard it it was like "what???" because the structure is so damn ab-normal... After like 5 listens, I realized that was THE song in the death-prog-metal field....And to top that, the acoustic moments and Akerfeldt's strangely sedated and narcotic, yet very satisfying voice, and even his growling is among the best of all growlings.... Opeth's last album is a 4/5 star, maybe a 4.5. Damnation is excellent too. The earlier ones haven't yet gotten to me....
Abba, on the other shore, has... Dancing Queen. Which was wonderfully performed, not by the original band, in the 2000 Olympics in Sidney.....
Abba was very close to "prog-pop" (whatever the hell that means ), but please don't put them alongside Opeth... if someone doesn't like the not-so-strong Christian values of Ak, well, I suggest Neal Morse or even better, Mayhem.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 16:34
What the hell? Abba?
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:07
Well I liked Agnetta and Annafried, that's all I can say aout ABBA.,
Always saw the in the James Last Show
The only musical program we had back in the 70's
Iván
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Posted By: Samir
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 17:53
The funny thing is that ABBA has more votes than Opeth until now, i know people are not taking this poll seriously, anyway, i would also vote for ABBA
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Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 18:36
ABBA? No way, no way at all, absolutely no way at all.
ABBA won the Eurovision Song Contest 1974 with Waterloo which probably is why the (partly prog swedish) Movement loathed them.
Dancing Queen of 76 was their biggest hit (Their only no. 1 in US) and after that they did a Disco record.
Well crafted Pop music (Which you don't see too much of these days.) but nothing more really. Opeth can suck as much as they wan't, they are still much more prog than ABBA.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 18:39
Kylie minogue hasn't yet performed an Opeth song, but she has an Abba song, so I guess I'll change my vote.... ABBA!!!
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 18:59
Don't know Opeth, so I won't vote.
Abba is not progressive, not even when they conjugated songs together. Even Chess, Björn and Benny's concept album / rock opera, is not progressive. You can only stretch the word "progressive" to a certain point.
Very talented songwriters, though, Björn and Benny. A musicologist once studied the way they opened their Abba songs, and that was always different. I don't listen to their albums, but I respect them.
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