How Worthless Are You?

Bluesaga wrote: Probably very much so in the grand scheme of things, but not enough for it to bother me at all on a personal level.  I have beautiful music, I am happy.  I wish others here could share my views, since we all have beautiful music, and despite the fact that society is going downhill, we still have music and should be happy for that fact alone (I love many things on this planet besides music of course, many of which I cannot explain...)

inpraiseoffolly wrote: ^^^^ I understand where you're coming from, I just don't like to see it hijacking my perfectly worthless thread... You understand that anything I post in here is not at all serious (EXCEPT THIS PART OF THIS POST). I honestly don't care what you talk about in this thread (in fact, if it helps people, I'm all for it), but keep in mind that I like my fun and I will nag you about it. Just pay me no mind. And back to not being serious now: DREAM THEATER ROCKS!

I with you on fun. I'm sure you know that I'm not against a good joke (or even a cheap shot ).

BTW, Do you know where I can find a Dream Theater thermos to go with my Dream Theater Lunch Box?

inpraiseoffolly wrote: You people, stop taking this thread seriously and treat it as the worthless place for worthless (and meaningless) discussion that it is. Or else it will have served no purpose, and will truly have been... worthless.

Well, you've hit on something that is very important to me. I have spent a lot of time working out these very issues. It goes right to the heart of why most people aren't very happy. I don't like to see people suffer, especially when they don't have to.

inpraiseoffolly wrote: stonebeard wrote: Society does nothing but lower a person's worth.Just a thought, but I'm glad I'm living now rather than in the future. This world isn't going to last much longer. We'll destroy it. Stonies a psychic Or maybe just stoned...

Or both!

Trickster F. wrote: Eh, as long as the word "value" remains undefined, the word "worthless" will have no meaning either.

So what you're saying is, worthless is worthless because we can't define it.

Which, if you really think about it, is a really cool vicious circle. 

You people, stop taking this thread seriously and treat it as the worthless place for worthless (and meaningless) discussion that it is.




Or else it will have served no purpose, and will truly have been... worthless.

Society does nothing but lower a person's worth.

Just a thought, but I'm glad I'm living now rather than in the future. This world isn't going to last much longer. We'll destroy it.

Eh, as long as the word "value" remains undefined, the word "worthless" will have no meaning either.

andu wrote: Indeed value (of anything) comes only by the relation to a fruition, just like use comes from the relation to the purpose or fulfillment comes from the relation to expectations etc. And just like T, I have come to think one's basic worth is that for oneself. As for me, my life sucks as I have come to lose most of the things I need and cherish  , so from this point of view I'm pretty worthless to myself. I have also broken the relations with family and friends in order to endure the emptiness, so there's nothing worthy for any side coming from this part. I am worth 300 euro/month for the guys I work for and that's a decent... appreciation in this part of the world, but again I'm not satisfied (this goes very well together with my post on the "Do you like your job" poll).BTW, "ceai" (to be pronounced "chai") means tea in my language, too.

You hit on a couple of important things there Andu. Value is something we assign. It is an illusion, something created in the mind. Expectations are some of the most dangerous things around. We create them based on the same kind of delusional thinking. When they don't come to fruition, we are unhappy. You also mentioned loss. We feel loss, because of the level of attachment (or value) we place on things. In reality, they have no value as such. They are just things, like any other.

I lost everything I owned, my friends, and my freedom a while back. I came out of it with the realization that there is actually nothing to have. Everything just exists as it does, and life flows as it will. This was the most liberating thing I had ever experienced. I now see endless opportunity, where there was nothing but hopelessness before. When existence is viewed from a wider perspective, individual gains lose their importance. The motive for improving myself now, is to make the world a better place.



Edited by bhikkhu - March 24 2007 at 14:56

Trickster F. wrote: andu wrote: BTW, "ceai" (to be pronounced "chai") means tea in my language, too. Moi aussi.