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Forgotten Son
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Topic: songs defining neo-prog Posted: December 15 2006 at 10:32 |
Marillion (Fish) - Script for a Jester's Tear/ Incubus Marillion (Hogarth) - The Space.../ Afraid of Sunlight Pendragon - The Last Man on Earth/ Master of Illusion Fish - Credo/ Raw Meat Arena - Solomon/ The Hanging Tree Twelfth Night - Creepshow IQ - Harvest of Souls Pallas - The Bringer of Dreams/ Too Close to the Sun Red Sand - Blame Violet District - Lustreless Fright/ Anquishes of a Scoundrel Collage - In Your Eyes Satellite - The Evening Wind/ Evening Games Clepsydra - Fear Credo - To the Grave Flamborough Head - Schoolyard Fantasy Epilogue - Swords and Knives/ Living a Lie Iluvatar - Late of Conscience Sylvan - That's Why it Hurts Grey Lady Down - And Finally
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Posted: December 15 2006 at 07:39 |
MOONGARDEN-wounded MARYGOLD-sunflowers THE WATCH-out of the land
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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Posted: December 15 2006 at 07:06 |
Collage - Wings in the Night
Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear
IQ - Further Away
Shadowland - Ring of Roses or Jigsaw or Hall of Mirrors...
Pendragon - The Shadow
The Watch - Damage Mode(though I don't think THE ATCH is Neo...New Symph is the anwser)
Twelfth Night - We're sane
Red Sand - Blame
La Tulipe Noire - Scent of Spring
Pallas - Crown of Thorns
I LIKE NEO!!!
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Posted: December 15 2006 at 00:29 |
My choices would be (one song for each band):
Marillion- White Russian
IQ- Widow's Peak
Arena- Solomon
Pendragon- The Pursuit of Excellence Master of Illusion Fish- Big Wedge ( ![Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif) @Stonie) Saens- Alone
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Posted: December 15 2006 at 00:25 |
stonebeard wrote:
sleeper wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
tuxon wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Deathrabbit wrote:
Man I just read this sites definition of it; they're pretty mean to neo-prog. |
That is an issue just brought up in the Collab Zone, in fact. Most likely will be fixed as soon as the neo team can be arsed into doing it. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
does this mean you will be writing it ![Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
go stoney go ![Tongue](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif) |
I've got time. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
I take it that means that your thinking of doing it, but maybe not.![Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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I'll do it, but I don't trust myself to be good at it, so I'm sure revisions will be made. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) For the record, I don't think the definition is too far off now, but it seems to be from a slightly anti-neo bias, which doesn't help gain converts or followers. |
This is true. By all means write it and I'll give you my opinion on it.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 22:15 |
Typical neo-prog:
Arena - Solomon, The Butterfly Man
Marillion - The Web, Ocean Cloud
Pendragon - The Last Man On Earth, Paintbox
Pallas - Too Close To The Sun, The Cross and the Crucible
Saens - Alone
Satellite - Evening Games
IQ - Sacred Sound
Just a few..note that this are all longer songs. I think neo especially shines in longer tracks...and lots of keyboards..
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 16:24 |
sleeper wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
tuxon wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Deathrabbit wrote:
Man I just read this sites definition of it; they're pretty mean to neo-prog. |
That is an issue just brought up in the Collab Zone, in fact. Most likely will be fixed as soon as the neo team can be arsed into doing it. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
does this mean you will be writing it ![Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
go stoney go ![Tongue](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif) |
I've got time. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
I take it that means that your thinking of doing it, but maybe not.![Wink](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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I'll do it, but I don't trust myself to be good at it, so I'm sure revisions will be made. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) For the record, I don't think the definition is too far off now, but it seems to be from a slightly anti-neo bias, which doesn't help gain converts or followers.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 11:43 |
MARILLION - The web
IQ - Widow's peak
PALLAS - Cut and run
PENDRAGON - Oh Divineo
TWELFTH NIGHT - Sequences
COMEDY OF ERRORS - The student prince
QUASAR - Fire in the sky
DEYSS - Voices in the dark
IT BITES - Once around the world
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 09:22 |
stonebeard wrote:
tuxon wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Deathrabbit wrote:
Man I just read this sites definition of it; they're pretty mean to neo-prog. |
That is an issue just brought up in the Collab Zone, in fact. Most likely will be fixed as soon as the neo team can be arsed into doing it. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
does this mean you will be writing it ![Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
go stoney go ![Tongue](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif) |
I've got time. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
I take it that means that your thinking of doing it, but maybe not.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 09:10 |
Marillion is my favourite neo-prog: Script, He knows, Garden party, Forgotten sons, Fugazi, Incubus, Emerald lies, Punch and Judy and the first three songs from Clutching.. (that I feel more like a three part suite than separate songs)
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 08:39 |
Had a bit of a neo prog splurge lately. It appeals to me a lot more than certain other subgenres of prog, I have to say.
Here's my take on it;
Marillion- Script For A Jester's Tear, The Web, Forgotten Sons, Incubus, the first side of 'Misplaced Childhood'
IQ- The Last Human Gateway, Awake and Nervous, Outer Limits, The Magic Roundabout, Widow's Peak, Leap Of Faith, Failsafe, Sacred Sound
Pendragon- Alaska, Queen Of Hearts, The Last Man On Earth, As Good As Gold, Paintbox, Guardian Of My Soul, The Shadow, Dance Of The Seven Veils
Pallas- Shock Treatment, Rise and Fall, The Last Angel, Too Close To The Sun, Towers Of Babble, Midas Touch, Cross and The Crucible
Arena- Bedlam Fayre, Opera Fantastica, Solomon, Jericho, The Hanging Tree, Witch Hunt, A Crack In The Ice
As for Camel, I think that's an interesting point, actually. I think 'Nude' in particular is quite an influential album to the 'neo prog' boom, especially Pendragon. What I dislike is the snobbiness about neo prog bands and Camel themselves, just because it doesn't have tons of shredding or off kilter dissonance, which personally does little for me anyway.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 08:15 |
Pendragon - Paintbx / As good as gold
Arena - The butterfly man / Bedlam Fayre
IQ - Sacred sound / You never will
Pallas - Too close to the sun / Invincible
Marillion - The invisible man / The great escape
I only mentioned two per band, but there's lot more than this ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 07:50 |
IQ - The Enemy Smacks, Widow's Peak
Twelfth Night - Sequences, Creepshow, After the Eclipse
Marillion - Script..., Forgotten Sons, Fugazi, Grendel, and everything else with the Fishy one really.
Genesis - Behind The Lines (prior to Duke, Genesis weren't Neo, they were still evolving the old style).
I guess you could consider 1980s King Crimson to be part of the Neo movement, as the sound they evolved was completely new.
Another band that evolved their sound, but no-one really mentions it - probably because they maintained their identity and integrity - is Camel. "Stationary Traveller" may be plastered with 1980s production gaffes, but it's a kind of Neo-Camel album which separates their older sound from the newer sound.
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 07:00 |
speaking of neo... Marillion IS neo.. take any song from misplaced childhood
(i also love other neo progs, like IQ,Arena,Jadis,etc)
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 03:18 |
IQ /// IT ALL STOPS HERE
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Posted: December 14 2006 at 03:03 |
IQ - Further Away
IQ - Widows Peak
IQ - The Seventh House
Arena - Solomon
Marillion - The Uninvited Guest
Genesis - Squonk ![Big smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif)
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Posted: December 13 2006 at 23:08 |
I'll be waiting for your version Stonebeard.
speaking of out-of-placed songs for the neo-prog list.
how about
Cirkus - King Crimson Summer Lightning - Camel Robbery Assault and Battery - Genesis Turn Of the Century - Yes
back on topic:
Grain Dance - Clepsydra Heroes Cry - collage (already mentioned I think) Revolution - Saens
Edited by tuxon - December 13 2006 at 23:17
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Posted: December 13 2006 at 22:51 |
tuxon wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Deathrabbit wrote:
Man I just read this sites definition of it; they're pretty mean to neo-prog. |
That is an issue just brought up in the Collab Zone, in fact. Most likely will be fixed as soon as the neo team can be arsed into doing it. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
does this mean you will be writing it ![Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
go stoney go ![Tongue](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif) |
I've got time. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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Posted: December 13 2006 at 22:49 |
stonebeard wrote:
Deathrabbit wrote:
Man I just read this sites definition of it; they're pretty mean to neo-prog. |
That is an issue just brought up in the Collab Zone, in fact. Most likely will be fixed as soon as the neo team can be arsed into doing it. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) |
does this mean you will be writing it ![Clap](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif)
go stoney go ![Tongue](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif)
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Posted: December 13 2006 at 22:35 |
tuxon wrote:
So far nice entry's.
some out of place IMO
Marillion's Incommunicado and Arena';s Moviedrome are not typicly neo-prog in my book (the first is a standard melodiced rock song in the Who style, the second is pushing the boundary's of melodic space keyboard/synth metal)
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Ya, I suppose Incommunicado might not bethe best of choices.
Hmm...
I'll go with Black Light Machine by Frost*. Most Fish-era Marillion I find to be rather unique.
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