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Odd24 
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 Topic: CTTE vs. Gates of Delirium
Posted: November 05 2005 at 08:41 |
I just can't do it...
Man, do I love the both of them.
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Right down the line
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hcnoer
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 08:20 |
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Seriously, Gates of Delirium is what Prog is about.
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" Jon Anderson is the only man I know who tries to save this planet while living on another" - Rick Wakeman
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Saviorts
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 08:17 |
 DallasBryan wrote:
Wakeman is a great traditional soloist, but Moraz
with his experience with the swiss ballet can do
anything. Dont fool yourself when Jon and Vangelis
couldnt get it right that was a blessing. Patrick is
much more talented here setting soundscapes and
atmospheres, something Rick failed at terribly on
TFTO. This is as good as they got!
the Return of the Phantom of the Opera
Gates! |
I completely agree with this. Relayer sounds like the band is
working closer together and sharing a lot more than on Close to the
Edge, which is also great, but not as memorable or inspiring as Gates
or any other parts of Relayer.
Yes all ready proved they were really smart with Fragile. They
did it again with Close to the Edge. Than they realized (all but
Wakeman I guess...) that they didn't have to act as smart and made
TFTO. Relayer became the perfect follow up to their new found
revelation. 
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For the love of goldens.
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Norbert
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 07:06 |
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The Gates of Delirium. Very hard choice tough.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 06:54 |
The Gates, and now that I voted, it's 67 vs. 67 votes!
The Gates is more "alive". CTTE is well structured, but Gates is more errr... "happening".
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ZowieZiggy
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 06:01 |
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I do not want to enter into the discussion of Wakeman vs Moraz.
Both were excellent.
Wakeman lasted longer with Yes (I even see the BIF FIVES a few years
ago live in Brussuels) and produced a (too) huge discography in his
solo carreer (but at least half of it is crap).
So, I prefer Close to the Edge which is, to me, more accessible and
melodious than Gates of Delirium (even if I like very much the "soon"
moments.
Both are of course great songs.
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hcnoer
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Posted: November 05 2005 at 05:22 |
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Gates
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" Jon Anderson is the only man I know who tries to save this planet while living on another" - Rick Wakeman
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krauthead
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 17:41 |
G.O.D. 
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*Dancing madly backwards on a sea of air* - Captain Beyond
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Syzygy
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 17:03 |
Gates of Delirium is the one I listen to most often (I have it on a CD with Plague of Lighthousekeepers and Eruption) - the interplay between the musicians is stunning and the lyrics are the best on any of the classic era Yes albums.
CTTE is a better composition in strict formal terms, the vocal harmonies on 'I Get Up I Get Down' are among the best in symphonic prog and it works brilliantly live, but Gates has the edge for me.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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goose
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 15:30 |
Sweetnighter wrote:
I never liked the random two-minute church organ solo in CTTE myself... |
It sounds good to begin with, but after a while I begin to wonder if it's ever going to end.
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BePinkTheater
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Posted: October 16 2005 at 14:07 |
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CTTE!!!!!
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I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
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Ty1020
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Posted: October 15 2005 at 19:11 |
Olympus wrote:
Close to the edge I like more becasue the two songs other than the epics are better on CTTE |
We're talking about the songs, not the albums (Gates of Delirium isn't an album).
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Olympus
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Posted: October 15 2005 at 19:02 |
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Close to the edge I like more becasue the two songs other than the epics are better on CTTE
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"Let's get the hell away from this Eerie-ass piece of work so we can get on with the rest of our eerie-ass day"
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horza
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Posted: October 15 2005 at 18:21 |
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close to the edge - always
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Ty1020
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Posted: October 15 2005 at 17:44 |
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They're two of my favourite songs of all time, but my vote goes to Gates of Delirium.
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Phil
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Posted: October 15 2005 at 17:36 |
gok22us wrote:
Close to the Edge, is the track that truly defines Yes. However.....
The Gates of Delirium is a track that showed Yes actually supporting a cause, a theme (the war sucks thing, yeah) and personally, i think they play much more emotionally on this track.
I listen to Close to the Edge a lot more, and I really enjoy it. It's a wonderous listen that makes me feel like i'm flying on a magic carpet over the himalayas.
But the gates of delirium, has more meaning. The way it starts, you can visualize armies marching towards each other, and firing warning shots, and then the battle section! and then the beautiful Soon section, the aftermath of the war......wow.
It's a really tough decision, but even though i listen to CTTE more, Gates of Delirium is a more powerful piece.
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That's a point well made. "Gates" is a track that both lyrically and musically tells an epic tale. Close to the Edge is a great peice of music but any meaning is well-hidden.
Nonetheless I still voted for CTTE....
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gok22us
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Posted: October 15 2005 at 17:28 |
Close to the Edge, is the track that truly defines Yes. However.....
The Gates of Delirium is a track that showed Yes actually supporting a cause, a theme (the war sucks thing, yeah) and personally, i think they play much more emotionally on this track.
I listen to Close to the Edge a lot more, and I really enjoy it. It's a wonderous listen that makes me feel like i'm flying on a magic carpet over the himalayas.
But the gates of delirium, has more meaning. The way it starts, you can visualize armies marching towards each other, and firing warning shots, and then the battle section! and then the beautiful Soon section, the aftermath of the war......wow.
It's a really tough decision, but even though i listen to CTTE more, Gates of Delirium is a more powerful piece.
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Rockin' Chair
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Posted: October 15 2005 at 16:49 |
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I really can't choose. Those are my favourite Yes songs.
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MustShaveBeard
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Posted: October 14 2005 at 21:16 |
gleam wrote:
I've been a Yes fan since hearing them for the first time in '72 and CTTE gets my vote over Gates. Although both are great albums, CTTE shows the pinnacle of their evolution as a band. The classic line up (Anderson, Bruford, Howe, Wakeman & White) were in top form and it shows in the range of dynamics on that album.
Gates is exciting too, but I don't sense the group grew on that one. Instead they were going through the motions by recreating earlier successes.
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WHAT!?!?!?!?! HUH!?!?! ARRRGGHHHH!!!! etc.
Relayer is the ONLY album Yes progressed their sound on. What other dark Yes song is there?
Gates of Delirium beats CTTE by a very, very, very, very, VERY long stick for me. (I'm talking about REEEEEEEEEEEAAAALLY long)
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Your life or your lupins!!!
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Signifier
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Posted: October 14 2005 at 17:30 |
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Gates of Delirium... From the first sound of Anderson's voice, that
song has you. The best singing he's ever done. And Soon is immensely
inspiring.
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