For the benefit of Americans

If it weren't for America, there'd be no Fender or Gibson guitars.

But thanks for those Marshall amps, guys!

Hey I would be the first person to stick up for Britain, afterall not only have I been in love with a British man most my life, or is it the home of my favorite music... but my last name is Heath, my other grandparents surnames were Waters and Gray.  I have a feeling my blood is English.....

The tiny country of Norway has actually managed to produce some of the world's greatest artists,chief among them Ibsen of course,the father of modern drama. Then there's Edvard Munch,the father of modern painting. Throw in Grieg and a few others (like Nobel prize winners Sigrid Undset and Knut Hamsun) and we have actually had rather a great impact in the realms of the arts over the last 100 years or so for such a tiny place. Proof positive that size really is immaterial!

Pixel Pirate wrote: ... But I wasn't being entirely serious with that list obviously (and I left out a few thousand names!), but you probably got that. Or maybe not? America has had tons of great minds,only a lunatic would dispute that,some of my favourite writers are American actually,..

Thats my point to Pixel... even with less than 300 years to pull from, I could quote you just as many names...

Pixel Pirate wrote: And Davy Crockett? THE Davy Crocket? The frontiersman and defender of the Alamo? Rubbing shoulders with the genius of Edgar Allan Poe? Surely some mistake?

Greatness shows no biasness. Davy Crockett has his place in the history of this country.  He was our first celebrity..  

http://www.comedyontap.com/pantheon/crockett/crockett4.html

Its funny tho, I wonder how many of us would even have th chance to communicate as well without one American.... Bill Gates..

Ane whether or not you like Andy Warhol, Velvy.... he was an artist.. no doubt about it.  A very strange one, but he's very well liked worldwide...

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Cheerleaders a´la UK

I'm puffing away right now,Gdub! But I wasn't being entirely serious with that list obviously (and I left out a few thousand names!), but you probably got that. Or maybe not? America has had tons of great minds,only a lunatic would dispute that,some of my favourite writers are American actually,but Chaplin was actually English and I always found him about as funny as a root canal anyway. And Davy Crockett? THE Davy Crocket? The frontiersman and defender of the Alamo? Rubbing shoulders with the genius of Edgar Allan Poe? Surely some mistake?

And my America bashing ends here and now! I simply cannot singlehandedly shoulder the responsibility of defending 5000 years of European culture and history,and since I actually have a great admiration for the American people (in general), the whole thing is simply swamped with so many grey areas that I run a risk getting tangled up in my own arguments and meeting myself in the door. Could be a tad mixing of metaphors there,but you get my point.

Pixel Pirate wrote: In the Euro corner: Homer,Hippocrates,Socrates,Plato,Aristotle,Euclid,Lucretius, Seneca,Cicero,Virgil,Marcus Aurelius,Thomas Aquinas,Dante,Machiavelli,Erasmus,Rabelais,Copernicus,Montai gne,Shakespeare,Francis Bacon,Galilei,Milton,Descartes,Pascal,Spinoza,Hobbes,Newton, Locke,Hume,Montesquieu,Rosseau,Kant,Blake,Goethe,Hegel,Kierk egaard,Schopenhauer,Darwin,Ibsen,Nietzsche,Freud,Einstein,Ka fka,Jung,Heidegger,Sartre. In the American corner: Err.....hmm....err....

Well Europe has all you guys, and evidently you're not all that bright..

American has many, many great writers, painters, inventors, actors, directors, statesmen, businessmen... This is the home of the free and the brave afterall... Great Americans such as :

George Washington, Alexander Graham Bell, Eli Whitney, George Westinghouse, Susan B. Anthony, Cesar Chavez, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King, Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, Abraham Lincoln, Harriet Tubman, The Wright Brothers, Rosa Parks, Georgia O'Keefe, Louis Armstrong, Teddy, FDR, and Eleanor Roosevelt, Henry Ford, Ernest Heminway, Walt Disney, Jackson Pollack, John F. Kennedy, Andy Warhol, George Patton, Davy Crockett, Ray Charles, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra, George Washington Carver, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Walt Whitman, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Henry David Thoreau, Nathaniel Hawthorne, Mark Twain, Booker T. Washington, Henry Adams, Edith Wharton, Upton Sinclair, Will Rogers, Langston Hughes, F. Scott Fitzgerald, John Steinbeck, Edgar Allan Poe, William Faulkner, Ayn Rand, Jack Keroauc, William F. Buckley, Mary Cassatt, Emily Dickenson, Willa Catha, John Singer Sargent, James Whistler (who painted his mother), Margaret Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Ansel Adams, Muhammad Ali, P. T. Barnum, Irving Berlin, Leonard Bernstein, Andrew Carnegie, Margaret Mead, Raymond Chandler, Henry Clay, John Fenimore Cooper, Aaron Copland, Dwight Eisenhower, Duke Ellington, Bill Gates, George Gershwin, Robert E. Lee, Sinclair Lewis, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark, Charles Lindbergh, Henry Longfellow, J. Pierpont Morgan, Samuel B. Morse, Robert Moses, Joseph Pulitzer, Richard Rodgers, Charles Schulz, Isaac Stern, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, John Keats, Louisa May Alcott, Robert Frost, Allen Ginsberg, Humphrey Bogart, Grace Kelly, Charlie Chaplin, Katherine Hepburn, Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly, Judy Garland, Clark Gable, John Wayne, Martin Scorsese, Stephen Spielberg, Frances Ford Coppola, Michael Jordan, Mark Spitz, Pocahantas, Amelia Earhart, Frank Lloyd Wright, Buffalo Bill Cody, Harry Houdini, Ethan Allen, Jimmy Carter, T.S. Eliot, Oliver Wendall Holmes, Washington Irving, Jack London, Norman Mailer, Arthur Miller, Herman Melville, Toni Morrison, Eugene O'Neill, J.D. Salinger, Carl Sandburg, Tennessee Williams,  and Homer Simpson among thousands of others....

However, if you're not up on your American history... here's a link where you can learn about some of these great Americans..

http://odur.let.rug.nl/~usa/B/

 

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maani wrote: Blacksword: "Intellecutal and cultural supremacy?"  Surely you jest!  Is that why most of your "greatest minds" leave the U.K. to work in the U.S.?  Is that why U.S. "culture" dominates in the world (for better or worse)?  (For more, see the thread on "American Empire" in this category...) Don't get me wrong.  I am an anglophile, and always have been.  But you are going to have to come up with stronger positions than that to justify your greatness! Peace.

Oh manni, honestly. I shouldn't have to answer that. Which country has produced the best rock prog rock music? England. Which out of our two continents have produced the best classical composers? Europe!! America has spawned some fantastic writers, I must admit, but lets be honest we had Shakespeare, all the romantic poets etc. Thats what I refer to as cultural supremecy. The fact that the world has since embraced Big Mac culture is not a credit to America, but more a discredit to everyone who indulges in it. Then there is cuisine & wine. Which continent produces the finest wine? Europe. Forget that dusty Californian rubbish, its only a step away from Jacobs Creek Aussie muck  

Why do our top minds leave and go to the US? Because they go on vacation there and get kidnapped and chained to a Harvard desk and told to produce plans for weapons and world domination for sinister underground masonic Zionist organisations run by the likes of Donald (666) Rumsfeld....ok now I'm getting silly. I Might have made that last bit up..

Happy New year to EVERYONE!

Garion wrote: Bash America all you want fellow
members of this world. It is what you do the one that
is on top.


Why do all the americans have this obsession with
being on top?
As far as I can It is their missionary (position) zeal
that has the rest of the world in trouble.
Try out some others, variety is the spice of life - or an
imprisonable offence in some states