Should Iron Maiden be classified as Prog-

WaywardSon wrote: I really think it´s time they were accepted. Maybe prog purists dread the thought of seeing albums like "Powerslave" and "Dance of Death" being reviewed on the homepage, but when you think of it, we already have albums like "Hot Space"  and "Play the Game" by Queen (plus a lot of other "shady" albums being reviewed)

The difference between Powerslave and Hot Space is that Powerslave is one of Iron Maiden's most progressive albums, while Hot Space is one of Queen's least progressive albums.

Ghost Rider wrote: Guys, please remember that this is a thread about Iron Maiden, not jazz, fusion or whatever...As to Toolis' remarks, please refer to what I wrote earlier on in this thread. As far as I know, most of the people who have posted here are quite knowledgeable about music, and saying that they don't use their reasoning just because they want to see their favourite band in PA is unfair, not to mention at least potentially offensive. So, I would ask everyone to refrain from such comments, as I wouldn't like to have to close the thread.

    
don't take it the wrong way.. fans that put their feelings before objectiveness are not stupid, neither lack of knowledge.. i, myself, find it romantic, and have done it before...to try and persuade us to accept Maiden as prog is sth like that to me...

Guys, please remember that this is a thread about Iron Maiden, not jazz, fusion or whatever...

As to Toolis' remarks, please refer to what I wrote earlier on in this thread. As far as I know, most of the people who have posted here are quite knowledgeable about music, and saying that they don't use their reasoning just because they want to see their favourite band in PA is unfair, not to mention at least potentially offensive. So, I would ask everyone to refrain from such comments, as I wouldn't like to have to close the thread.

Ghost Rider wrote: Certif1ed wrote: Eetu Pellonpää wrote: I think it's about violently pushing the barriers of theoretical fences, which create territories for conceptual entities. "This is PROG!"  Taking that description, then we should be considering all genres of electronica, like Trance, Jungle, Drum and Bass and all the recent derivatives with silly names. We should also be seriously thinking about Punk - how violently were the barriers pushed by that music? Then there's rap, techno, chill-out, and all the other popular forms in which barriers have been pushed if not broken. In short, that reasoning by itself is insufficient. And I have to say that reasoning is in short supply in this thread...      So, why do you bother to post here, if we are all unreasoning brutes? Do you realise that this is not a very complimentary remark, or is it just that you don't care?

i'm sorry but i would have to agree with Certif1ed... i too have the feeling that the arguments of those who wish to see Maiden in the PA are broods of their love to the band and not reason...

    

I have Powerslave, not 7th Sun yet, yeah, that album has prog like things, but it is not a prog or progressive album.

bhikkhu wrote: Joren wrote: bhikkhu wrote: Ghost Rider wrote: HT, my dearest fellow horseman  -  (and you're not old at all - what would that make me then?)BTW, your new sig is fantastic, and I endorse that 100%...Anyway, though we may be the Four (or five?) Horsemen, I'm afraid we're very much flogging the proverbial dead horse in this particular case... Ah, Raffaella, you are too sweet. The old man thing was in response to an earlier comment. It may never happen, but perhaps some more people will check out this quality metal band. Err... I think pretty much EVERYONE knows Iron Maiden. I wouldn't be so sure about that. They aren't exactly on top anymore. I'm sure there are fans of the modern bands who have never heard an Iron Maiden album.

http://www.last.fm/charts/music/artist/

they are higher on the list than even R.E.M., Guns N' Roses, Rammstein, AC/DC and Korn. I really think Iron Maiden is still the prototypical metal band and therefore a must-hear for rock/metal fans (Metallica as well, of course).

Lex C wrote: Iron Maiden progressed metal, not music alltogether. So while they have proggy undertones, concept albums and even a few prog songs, they are not a prog band. They helped and still do help metal as one of the godfathers of the genre, nonetheless metal was around before them.

    
I was unsure about it as well. Give "Powerslave" and "Seventh Son" another listen.

Joren wrote: bhikkhu wrote: Ghost Rider wrote: HT, my dearest fellow horseman  -  (and you're not old at all - what would that make me then?)BTW, your new sig is fantastic, and I endorse that 100%...Anyway, though we may be the Four (or five?) Horsemen, I'm afraid we're very much flogging the proverbial dead horse in this particular case... Ah, Raffaella, you are too sweet. The old man thing was in response to an earlier comment. It may never happen, but perhaps some more people will check out this quality metal band. Err... I think pretty much EVERYONE knows Iron Maiden.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. They aren't exactly on top anymore. I'm sure there are fans of the modern bands who have never heard an Iron Maiden album.
    

Ghost Rider wrote: HT, my dearest fellow horseman  -  (and you're not old at all - what would that make me then?) BTW, your new sig is fantastic, and I endorse that 100%... Anyway, though we may be the Four (or five?) Horsemen, I'm afraid we're very much flogging the proverbial dead horse in this particular case...

Well, you more or less convinced me. I would no longer mind seeing Iron Maiden in Prog Related.




Edited by Joren - September 06 2006 at 13:43

HT, my dearest fellow horseman  -  (and you're not old at all - what would that make me then?)

BTW, your new sig is fantastic, and I endorse that 100%...

Anyway, though we may be the Four (or five?) Horsemen, I'm afraid we're very much flogging the proverbial dead horse in this particular case...