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bhikkhu 
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 Topic: National pride
Posted: May 30 2006 at 23:30 |
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I can be proud of being an American, while not being proud of our current government. It stinks right now, and the greedy narrow people seem to control everything. At least I have the right to say that. Sure, that may seem unpatriotic to some, but that's really what the U.S. is supposed to be about. I only hope more people will wake up to the fact that it's about everybody, not just a select few.
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R o V e R
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Joined: July 13 2005
Location: India
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Points: 2747
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Posted: May 30 2006 at 16:30 |
Brothers & Sisters
Visit INDIA
Anytime
Edited by R o V e R - May 30 2006 at 16:33
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Badabec
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Location: Germany
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Points: 1313
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Posted: May 30 2006 at 16:24 |
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I'm not proud that I'm a German, but I'm also not ashamed that I was
born here. You can't be proud of the state you live in. You can only be
proud of something that you reached.
That's my opinion...
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Empathy
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Joined: June 30 2005
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Points: 1864
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Posted: May 30 2006 at 16:19 |
If the life span of the cosmos were mapped to the Roman calendar, human
beings have existed approximately as long as the last few minutes of
December 31st.
Do nations still seem important? 
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Pure Brilliance:
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memowakeman
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Joined: May 19 2005
Location: Mexico City
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Points: 13032
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Posted: May 30 2006 at 15:41 |
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I´ve noticed that so many members who used to have a location (Belgium, Scotland, Germany, USA for example).. don t have the location anymore... why?
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Follow me on twitter @memowakeman
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crimson thing
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Joined: April 28 2006
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 848
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 20:20 |
Gandhi 2 wrote, and for once I agree :
Treason, however, is selling your country out for money. Take the Hansen case. A few years ago this CIA agent, Hansen, was found to have been selling secrets to the Russians. He had several million dollars in a Swiss bank account to show for it. Did he do it because he thought the Russians were right and the US was wrong? Of course not, he did it for the money. That's treason. |
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The possessive of it is ITS.
Apostrophes are NOT used for plural nouns. (Unless it is absolutely necessary for it to not be confusing, such as A's. | Money - that's t'reason why he did it.... 
Edited by crimson thing - May 29 2006 at 20:20
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erik neuteboom
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Joined: July 27 2005
Location: Netherlands
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Points: 7659
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 19:17 |
A few weeks ago I flew over Puerto Rico when I went from Aruba (where my Dutch wife was born and raised) to Holland, it was by night and everything seemed alright in Puerto Rico  !
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chamberry
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 18:56 |
I'm very proud of Puerto Rico for many reasons (sports, history, culture, beaches, girls  ). But I can't say I'm proud of the goverment. Where bankrupt! and there are alot of political problems that doesn't seem to end and is all mostly because of our corrupt leaders. There are other problems, but I won't mention all of them. Having said that, I do have pride for my lil island. It's just that its slowly going downhill.
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Rorro
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Joined: December 31 2005
Location: Uruguay
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Points: 508
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 21:21 |
I'm one of the only two Uruguayans that are members of this site, and i'm proud of it.
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Ghandi 2
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Joined: February 17 2006
Location: United States
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Points: 1494
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 21:01 |
 stonebeard wrote:
That's also why the concept of treason baffles me. If my country is doing something I consider wrong, and I join the the other side, one I consider doing the right thing, what gives my country the right to say I'm committing treason. In a globalist point of view, there is no such thing as treason I believe, unless some aliens start attacking Earth and I join them. |
The reason you are baffled by the concept is because you don't have the right one. Joining the other side because you think your country is wrong is called defecting--just don't expect that you can ever go back to your original country, obviously.
Treason, however, is selling your country out for money. Take the Hansen case. A few years ago this CIA agent, Hansen, was found to have been selling secrets to the Russians. He had several million dollars in a Swiss bank account to show for it. Did he do it because he thought the Russians were right and the US was wrong? Of course not, he did it for the money. That's treason.
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Bj-1
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 20:30 |
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NO!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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avestin
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 07:46 |
Sean Trane wrote:
avestin wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Beer, Chocolates and Belgium
AND Univers Zero |
La biere, le chocolat et les groups de rock progressif je comprend, mais etre fier de la Belgique?...
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Il Y a bien d' autres endroits ou c'est bien pire. Il pleut de trop et il y a trop de gens qui veulent la mort du pays. En dehors de cela, c' est un assez chouette pays |
Je suis d'acord, vous avez raison.
Mais, etant d'origine Francaise, Je ne peut pas laissez passe un Belge sans dire rien...(Sorry for the spelling mistakes, I have never learned to write in French).
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Visitor13
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Joined: February 02 2005
Location: Poland
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Points: 4702
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 07:44 |
Vompatti wrote:
goose wrote:
Vompatti wrote:
Why should I feel national pride? I just happened to be born here.
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Why should you be proud of your own achievements? You just happened to be born in your body, in your environment and with your genes |
Achievements are overrated.
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Precisely.
And even if they weren't, why should I be proud of someone else's achievements?
Having said that, I'm not ashamed of being Polish, either.
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Sean Trane
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Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
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Points: 20239
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 07:37 |
Bon. Ben, les mecs!!!!!!!!!
On la fait cette putain de révolution? 
Edited by Sean Trane - May 24 2006 at 05:19
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Mikerinos
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Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Planet Gong
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Points: 8890
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Posted: May 22 2006 at 00:32 |
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Yes. America is nowhere close to being perfect, and I'm sure there are better places in the world, but I'm happy to live here because it could be much, much worse as well.
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DarioIndjic
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Joined: April 15 2005
Location: Universe
Status: Offline
Points: 600
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Posted: May 22 2006 at 00:23 |
Salut à tous,je parles francais aussi bien que ma langue maternelle
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Ars longa , vita brevis
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Bern
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Joined: September 22 2005
Location: Québec
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Points: 11746
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 16:53 |
^ Oh non! Nous avons été découverts. Nous sommes piègés 
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RIP in bossa nova heaven.
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Syzygy
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Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 7003
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 16:51 |
Bern wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
avestin wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Beer, Chocolates and Belgium
AND Univers Zero |
La biere, le chocolat et les groups de rock progressif je comprend, mais etre fier de la Belgique?...
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Il Y a bien d' autres endroits ou c'est bien pire. Il pleut de trop et il y a trop de gens qui veulent la mort du pays. En dehors de cela, c' est un assez chouette pys |
Hé! Arrêtez de parler en français sur le forum. Les gens ne vont rien comprendre et vont penser qu'on fait une conspiration contre eux
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Pourquoi croyez-vous que les gens ici ne comprendent rien sauf que ce qu'est ecrit en Anglais? Il y a quelques uns ici qui peuvent comprendre des langues etrangeres (meme s'Ils trompent beacoup en ecrivant Francais ) et si les Francais font conspiration ils la sauront!
Edited by Syzygy - May 21 2006 at 16:51
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Bern
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 10:53 |
Sean Trane wrote:
avestin wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Beer, Chocolates and Belgium
AND Univers Zero |
La biere, le chocolat et les groups de rock progressif je comprend, mais etre fier de la Belgique?...
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Il Y a bien d' autres endroits ou c'est bien pire. Il pleut de trop et il y a trop de gens qui veulent la mort du pays. En dehors de cela, c' est un assez chouette pys |
Hé! Arrêtez de parler en français sur le forum. Les gens ne vont rien comprendre et vont penser qu'on fait une conspiration contre eux
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RIP in bossa nova heaven.
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk
Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 20239
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Posted: May 20 2006 at 07:28 |
avestin wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
Beer, Chocolates and Belgium
AND Univers Zero |
La biere, le chocolat et les groups de rock progressif je comprend, mais etre fier de la Belgique?...
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Il Y a bien d' autres endroits ou c'est bien pire. Il pleut de trop et il y a trop de gens qui veulent la mort du pays. En dehors de cela, c' est un assez chouette pays
Edited by Sean Trane - May 23 2006 at 03:56
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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