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JrKASperov 
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 12:18 |
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"STFU and get back ontopic" -JrKASperov
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Epic.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 10:13 |
"Que?"  ...
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 09:26 |
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"Erik Neuteboom woz ere" Nietzsche
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 08:55 |
"The Superior White Mellotron M400" Nietzsche  ...
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 08:13 |
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"Thus spake Zarathustra" - Nietzsche
Back to him again!
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maani
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 08:09 |
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"Also Sprach Zarathustra" Richard Strauss...
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: May 29 2006 at 03:25 |
"Zarathustra" Museo Rosenbach
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maani
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 23:04 |
"God created not mankind but mankind created God" Nietzsche (quoted by Erik Neuteboom).
"God is dead." Nietzsche
"Nietzsche is dead." God.
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The Wizard
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 21:03 |
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I'm reading the book and I'll tell you it's pretty edgey. I can see why mny Christians hate it, with all the links to pagan imagrey and such.
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 19:37 |
"God created not mankind but mankind created God" Nietzsche ...
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maani
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 19:31 |
“I was a young man with unformed ideas. I threw out queries, suggestions, wondering all the time over everything; and to my astonishment the ideas took like wildfire. People made a religion out of them!” Charles Darwin
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Minkia
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 14:50 |
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Everyone: Stop taking everything as gospel!
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RELIGION IS HATE, RELIGION IS FEAR, RELIGION IS WAR,RELIGION IS RAPE, RELIGION'S OBSCENE,RELIGION'S A WHORE
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erik neuteboom
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 07:03 |
Yesterday I started to read this book because I have to travel at least one hour to my work and I had heard lots of positive stories. Well, after 50 pages I can say that it reads like a good historical detective and it contains some interesting views on the role of the church in the past like underpressing women and the enormous power of the Vatican.
By the way I am not an atheist but I don't believe in a god or gods, I have the idea that, like in nature, it's a tough world were we have to take our own responsibility. If somebody wants to pray, to me it's OK but it my opinion it won't help the huge poverty and injustice in Latin-America, Africa, Asia and an increasing amount of countries...
Today I will turn another page of this captivating book, I hope it will remain so.
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crucify_the_ego
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 06:31 |
 Sean Trane wrote:
Leave it to religious zealots to make science and atheism be religions! |
To be honest, science is often just as implausible as religion. The majority of atheists do not actually understand the science behind the Big Bang theory, they just accept it because it is told to them by scientists, who supposedly "know what they're talking about". This, combined with the average atheist's willingness to dismiss any expression of religious thought without giving it serious consideration means that atheism and religion are the same, or at least very similar - both are essentially founded in ignorance and blind faith in the wisdom of their "spokesmen", "spokesmen" being either priests or scientists. I'm sure there are many people on these forums who understand all the science behind the Big Bang, just as there will be theists who understand all the arguments for the existence of God. However, nonetheless, most people believe in whatever it is they always believed in, and take just about everything about that belief on faith.
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JrKASperov
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Posted: May 27 2006 at 05:17 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Leave it to religious zealots to make science and atheism be religions! |
Actually, Kuhn, Popper, Hume, Kant, Mach and other philosophers who took away the ground of truth for science were not quite well known for their religiousness 
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Epic.
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 18:26 |
I'm loving how the Church is squirming on this one.
Yet they completely fail to see the comparison to when they basically told Jews to "lighten up" about Passion of Christ.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 13:06 |
Besides (and in spite of) the movie being terrible , it is rifght now in third position in box office
and there are calls/offers from travel agency for tour of Paris and London to find where the crap was shot>> sickening  |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 26 2006 at 13:03 |
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Leave it to religious zealots to make science and atheism be religions!
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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JrKASperov
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 08:01 |
Wrong, science philosophy has debunked that idea long ago. (all the way back to Hume, go figure.) 
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Epic.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: May 21 2006 at 06:30 |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Da Vinci Code controversy
>> then they become cold hard facts, which is more that can be said of religions