Roxy Music

greenback wrote: roxy music is bland and not prog imo

I would agree with you 100% but my rant is towards the people would pressured for inclusion and then do not review them.

OK guys , Roxy Music has been on the Archives for one month now ,to the great demand of some progheads/forum members and so far there has maximum eight or nine reviews and only two from the persons who pleaded for their inclusion on the Archives. it seems that some of the ask-ers are not the do-ers (no offence) but then if the ask-ers do not write reviews......

When I pestered Poor Old Max@ for inclusion of Traffic , Tangerine dream , Audience , Aka Moon , Procol Harum, I made suire there was the majority of the studio albums that I reviewed within the first month. Now this is my idea of rewarding the admins for inclusion borderline groups for the archives. I was against Uriah Heep for inclusion in the Archives but still wrote reviews for their classic period (first 7 or 8 albums)

Progly yours

Hugues

Easy Livin wrote: The reviews are not exactly rolling in for Roxy Music, one to date.

Didn't know they were posted yet.  Just put one in for "For Your Pleasure" and am setting up one for "Siren"

It's like being inducted into the Hall of Fame 

Madgo,

Here's something to help your case:

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp

Look at the description of Art Rock, and the bands listed as examples!

madgo2 wrote: Easy Livin wrote: mirco wrote: If Roxy Music can be consider to be part of the archives, why don't consider Traffic too? Dear Mister fantasy and  The slow spark are quite good, and superior (in my point of view) to Roxy. It's not really a question of who is "superior" though, it's just whether they are prog or not. I would agree though that Traffic were pretty progressive over all in a jazz prog way, including "The Low spark..". My concern with including bands like Roxy Music is that, in their day they were one of the biggest bands in the world. I think more care needs to be taken over including such bands here, than lesser know marginal cases. To include Roxy Music would in my opinion distort the site, as the implication would be that they were also therefore a major prog act, which clearly they were not.   More so than not Roxy Music was considered part of the glam movement being included with the likes of David Bowe, TRex, etc...there first three albums really didn't even chart in the USA and they were more popular in Europe.  It wasn't until their fourth album that they became somewhat noticed in the USA and then when there fifth release including "Love is the Drug" came out they started to enjoy notereity.  However there can be no doubt that there first five releases were glam and progressive in that they surely must qualify as "Art Rock" which is included as a subcategory.  I truly wonder how they cannot be considered that with songs such as "In Every Dream Home a Heartache", "The Bogus Man", "Mother of  Pearl", "For Your Pleasure", "Triptych","Casanova", "Ladytron", and "Seabreezes" just to name a few.  There last three albums were a different style but still considered prog by many and characterised as prog pop.  I am convinced that you guys have not listened to one of the first five Roxy albums.  Absolutely no way when you listen to the sonic textures that Brian Eno and Phil Manzanera produced and certainly let us not omit Andy Macay a classically trained musician and what he added in the horn section.  Shame on this site for it's shortsightedness when it comes to this band.  I do enjoy the site but this is an ommission which really takes some crediblity away from the Prog Archives.  I really cannot believe there is a rational argument here to keep these guys off the site and if so please have it be from someone who has actually listened to the albums and not just the singles off there final album Avalon.  I do agree that this site isn't about who the "superior" group was and as for Traffic then of course the same could be said about Steely Dan but that is a different topic for a different day.  For now lets get Roxy Music added to this site!

If you took the time to read through the posts on this site you would realise that we are mostly an eclectic lot.The majority of us went to University and were exposed to many different genres of music.The amount of concerts I went to just to curry favour with various delightful young fillies has given me exposure to many different bands.Phil Manzenera is a very talented, and probably underrated musician.However,just because you believe them to be prog doesnt make it so!

Try expanding on your post above and mailing it to the Forum Admin group.Oh, and without the insults.

"Prog Pop" is an oxymoron in my opinion and the "many" you refer to a figment of your imagination.

Madgo,

I can't speak for the others here, but my opinion is based on the RM albums I have, FOR YOUR PLEASURE, ROXY MUSIC, STRANDED, STREET LIFE/TWENTY GREATEST HITS.

Your opinion is equally as valid as mine, I have no more influence that you over who is added to the site and who is not. I would suggest though that deriding the site for not including a band you clearly have a passion for, will not help to further your case. Continue to promote the constructive and persuasive views you also expressed, and who knows, you may be successful.