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AtLossForWords
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Topic: DT Train vs 8V Posted: April 26 2006 at 10:36 |
I'll have to go with Octavarium. There is some good matierial on Train of Thought, but nothing in particular stands out the way Octavarium and Sacraficed Sons do. Octavarium also has some great tracks in Never Enough, The Root of All Evil, and These Walls.
Of course In the Name of God and Stream of Conciousness are great tunes, but they just seem to be weak compared to other DT tracks of that same calibur.
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 08:27 |
Malve87 wrote:
Well...we're talking about Progressive, and so I chose Octavarium, cause I think that Train Of Thought isn't so much prog....it's more like a sheer Metal album...the only prog influence on it in my opinion are on tracks: Vacant and In the name of God.... |
When I listen to a pure metal album in comparison - for example the latest Bruce Dickinson album or even Judas Priest, In Flames, whatever ... then I do hear an apparent difference. It's not a prog masterpiece, but certainly a progressive album.
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ANDREW
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 08:20 |
Train of Thought
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Malve87
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 16:33 |
Well...we're talking about Progressive, and so I chose Octavarium, cause I think that Train Of Thought isn't so much prog....it's more like a sheer Metal album...the only prog influence on it in my opinion are on tracks: Vacant and In the name of God....
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Sloth
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 16:22 |
Octavarium is the best of the 2. ToT is more metal than Prog.
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Time-Machinist
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 13:48 |
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daz2112
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 13:23 |
Octavarium
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Maverick
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 13:20 |
Octavarium indeed.
More progressive than Train Of Thought.
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Tomodachi
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 09:37 |
I voted TOT because I consider it better as a whole album, but Octavarium (the song) is the best track DT ever produced IMO.
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Prog-jester
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 07:43 |
ToT - innovative,challenging,dark,angry,METAL!!!
8ium - weak,repetitive,void,usual,unprofessional,CRAP!!!
Easy choise!
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HeirToRuin
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 06:27 |
I own both and routinely listen to neither.
These albums, to me, represent the beginning of the end for Dream
Theater. Lack of originality, uninspired lyrics, ripoffs galore
all over the place...
Totally not progressive...not even Octavarium's title track.
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Masque
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 06:15 |
When I first played octa I was  now I am  when I first played train I was  now I am
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Bj-1
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 05:20 |
Octavarum is crap compared to TOT, IMO.
Octavarium: 3 or 3.5/5
TOT: 4.5/5
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sleeper
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 05:12 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Train of Thought, easily. |
This says it all for me.
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Visitor13
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 05:03 |
Snow Dog wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Train of Thought, easily. |
I have to agree with this wise man. |
That makes us the Three Wise Men  .
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 04:55 |
I CANT VOTE .BOTH ARE VERY BAD.
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Man Made God
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 04:40 |
At this moment ToT wins this one for me.
I think that that album was the only one from DT so far I didn't have
to get used to. I sounded excatly the way I wanted it to sound.
Still one of the most-played DT cd's I have.
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nowayman121
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 03:40 |
I thought ToT had some very strong moments but also some very weak moments, 8V even though more commercial sounding had more better songs on it, the title track won this with ease
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 02:56 |
BTW ... here are my track by track ratings for the two albums:
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Norbert
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Posted: April 25 2006 at 02:36 |
Octavarium. It has more commercial tndencies, but overall it contains better songs IMHO.
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