10,000 Days - Tool

Does anyone know what the supposed "Backwards message" in Intension is?

Vicarious Hmmm The Concept is mighty fishy - Like the same concept PG- The barry williams Show

Edited by Xenoxen - May 03 2006 at 15:59

TheProgtologist wrote: I'm done with this conversation.    I was done 4 messages ago. You don't like them,fine by me.Your loss. I'm getting tired of you saying the same things over and over again.

TheProgtologist wrote: Xenoxen wrote: aapatsos wrote: ^ are you maybe over-reacting??     I have every Tool LP and i can say i  only like a handful of their songs. I think Maynard and Billy Howerdel should Keep A Perfect circle and dump Tool. Tool Just doesn't cut it, the vocals are sloppy and incoherent. He sings much better with  A Perfect Circle and Billy's Guitar is also much better with APC.   This isn't over-reacting is just plain criticism of band who should have evolved by now. The sad part is that you can see evolution in Opeth's music but not Tool's. Can you honestly listen to Opiate then listen to Lateralus or 10,000 Days and say that there is no progression or evolution in their sound?

TheProgtologist wrote: That's cool,it's a matter of personal taste and opinion. I also agree with you about Opeth,they have shown maturity and progression with each subsequent album,but I think that Tool have also.

Hey...Progtologist...how would you rate this album?...From one to ten, and also make some comparations with the other album...thanks
Im curious to know your thought about this...as I think of you as the biggest Tool fan in the forum...or at least one that knows everything that threr is to know about them...

sleeper wrote: Xenoxen wrote: aapatsos wrote: ^ are you maybe over-reacting??     I have every Tool LP and i can say i  only like a handful of their songs. I think Maynard and Billy Howerdel should Keep A Perfect circle and dump Tool. Tool Just doesn't cut it, the vocals are sloppy and incoherent. He sings much better with  A Perfect Circle and Billy's Guitar is also much better with APC.   This isn't over-reacting is just plain criticism of band who should have evolved by now.   It sounds like they have evolved to me, 10000 Days sounds nothing like Lateralus, theyve done that and moved on.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Xenoxen wrote: TheProgtologist wrote: If you like only a handful of Tool songs why do you bother buying their albums?     For The False hope they might mature into a better band instead of getting worse. I am glad i was able to download 10,000 Days  this time for .90 cents. This time i didn't have to waste $15.00 on a bad CD. I have also sold all the Cd's I had from them.   I gave them a fair change. They Just Don't do it for me. Now OPETH are great they matured over their Albums.     Just out of curiosity: Where can you download that album for 90 cents?

After reading through this whole thread .. there seem to be a lot of people that don't like this new album. Some people were convinced the leaked album was a prank by tool .. and even offered a crapload of supposed evidence to back their theories. (Sure wasted your time didn't ya .. ) Some people are complaining that it's not like Opiate .. or any of their other albums. No album is going to be like it's predecessor. A snip from an MTV interview with Kurt Loder:

Loder: You seem a lot less angry now than you were back in the early Tool days. Do you worry about the fans who say they miss that old, angry Maynard?

Keenan: No. You can go out and buy the records. There's Opiate [a 1992 EP], there's Undertow. The whole idea is to get it out: Write the song about it, spout off about it and get over it. I suppose I could repeat myself over and over again, but what's the point of that? The idea is, if I can't heal from my art, then how can you heal? So I've worked some things out and moved on.

I'm sure this speaks for all the members of the band .. do you really expect them to put out the exact same stuff on every album ? If you do .. then you have no idea what TooL is about .. go listen to Backstreet Boys.

I got to hear the album a few weeks ago. It wasn't from a leak, tho if it was I still would listen and wouldn't feel bad about it. I bought my store copy last night and ordered an Alex Grey signed copy a week ago.

1. Vicarious - Their radio song .. everybody's heard it.

2. Jambi - Very in your face, great time changes .. Floyd'ish .. even some talk box action.

3. & 4. Wings for Marie/10,000 Days - Certainly a change in tempo for the album .. a 17 minute piece that offers some insight into Maynards life. When you're not in the mood to rock out .. it's real cool.

5. The Pot - Threw me for a loop with stuff Maynard does with his voice .. but it's DIFFERENT from any other album and is all around badass.

6. Lipan Conjuring - If you can figure it out .. it might be cool .. filler track IMO.

7. Lost Keys - Seemingly a continuance of Faaip De Oaid. Bleeds into ..

8. Rosetta Stoned - I love the lyrics to this song. Whether or not you believe in aliens .. area 51 .. etc ... it tells an interesting story. Very cool.

9. Intension - Somewhat reminds me of APC .. Danny does some cool drum programming in this one.

10. Right In Two - Got a political feel from this one. Cool song, neat tabla stuff in the middle of it.

11. Vigniti Tres (23) -- Don't really get this one. Creepy. Dark. Tool.

10,000 Days has a little bit of something for everybody .. new and old fans alike. I was a bit bummed not to find a drum solo of sorts from Danny. I had the feeling there would have been from some of Blair's postings on their site. Anyway .. I'm just happy I got a ticket to see one of the small venue shows this Saturday.

Still learning about a lot of cool bands on this board .. I think it was Xenoxen that suggested Opeth in a post ... I'm really diggin them.

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magoo

^ still no comments from you two...

Tony R wrote: Well I want to know whether the "Tool album that was leaked" is 10000 Days or not...   Has anyone compared the two yet?

Yes,they are one and the same Tony.

The sound and mix on the actual cd is alot better though.