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Soul Dreamer 
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 Topic: Hardest Bad Player To Overlook
Posted: April 26 2006 at 21:50 |
I vote for singer. But really, anyone in a band can screw up the listening experience.
But if I don't like the voice, the music can never be good. The vocals have to fit the music.
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WaywardSon
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 19:57 |
I voted vocalist. I can only listen to Yes in small dosages because of Jon Anderson.
Donīt get me wrong I do like Yes, just those high vocals irritate me.
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Tenth Chaffinch
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 19:51 |
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Sorry for the two posts, computer didn't want to comply.
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Tenth Chaffinch
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 19:50 |
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A bad drummer can kill everything. Even if the vocals are bad, the music has a chance to save it. A sloppy drummer (like the one from Small Faces) can cost a band its reputation.
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Tenth Chaffinch
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 19:50 |
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A bad drummer can kill everything. Even if the vocals are bad, the music has a chance to save it.
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Zoso
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 18:03 |
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Bassists that can't hold it down get on my nerves, but that may just be because I play bass.
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 17:59 |
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Most problems I have with prog bands are either the singer can't hit a note or an appalling drummer - of which there are many.
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sleeper
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 17:14 |
For me its a bad bass player that really erks me, but that would be because I am one (bass player I mean  ). Bad vocals can get annoying but I can get passed them, for example I dont like Death Metal growls but I like Opeth because their music is so good. I aslo dont like Symphony X's last album to much because Micheal LePond was very boreing and uncreative on this album (hope he picks up on the new album).
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DrWizard
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Posted: April 26 2006 at 17:06 |
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Singers get a raw deal i think because I don't really care if a band has a great singer if they have good music also but bad singers get so agravating.
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Dirk
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:40 |
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Singing definitely, if the vocals are consistently bad a record becomes unlistenable pretty soon.
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ozzy_tom
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Posted: April 12 2006 at 16:36 |
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I vote for drummer, maybe 'cos I'm not familiar with drums playing enough. So I can't recognize all drumers mistakes in fact...
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Bj-1
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Posted: April 07 2006 at 21:48 |
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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MajesterX
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Posted: April 07 2006 at 20:54 |
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It's a tough desicion for me. I really have not heard ANY band so far that a member has "killed it" or ruined it for me. EXCEPT for example, the singer for OPETH. I like thier music and everything, but I REALLY don't like growling vocals. I would probably have to vote singer then, though I enjoy almost any vocals such as James Labrie, Geddy lee and others people seem to hate. Though I play bass, I think the singers get the short end of the stick in this situation. Too bad people were as critical of the musicians as they are of the vocalists.
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dagrush
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Posted: April 07 2006 at 20:23 |
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Singer... but then I prefer no vocals to most vocalists, so this answer is pretty obvious for me.
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cowbell1
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Posted: April 07 2006 at 20:03 |
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Really this is no question to any genera of music.
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 07 2006 at 18:18 |
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Singer.Bad vocals just act on my nerves... though I'm yet to meet a prog band where the singer would annoy me.
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AtLossForWords
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Posted: April 07 2006 at 17:52 |
Bassist can really make bands great. If a band has a great guitarist or keyboardist, big deal, every band has at least one great musician. When a bassist is great, he makes his whole band better. He gives other musicians a chance to play more interesting parts, and he himself can add a whole new character to a band. I would give many bands much better reviews if they only had good bassist.
Bad bassist can totally break an album. The grooves to the songs are much simpler and boring. The chords loose musical innovation, and so many things can go wrong. Any idea what's it's like to listen to a great drummer and have a bass player rush the groove? Any idea what's it's like to hear a great guitarist solo over the wrong chords? It's not that the drummer is rushing or the guitarist is in the wrong key, it's the bass player making all of the musicians around him sound worse.
Now you're looking at my signature thinking I'm a bass fanboy...
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Ghandi 2
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Posted: April 07 2006 at 17:44 |
Singing. I would really like Rush if only Geddy would SHUT UP AND PLAY HIS GUITAR!
After that, probably lyricist *cough* ClosetotheEdgeandFrancestheMute *cough* followed by drummer and guitarist.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: April 07 2006 at 15:51 |
How about lyricist 
But ill vote for singer. Though most singers don't bother me, so its hard for me to use that excuse with bands i dont like.
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Hierophant
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Posted: April 07 2006 at 14:00 |
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for me DT's weakest link is the drumming - portnoy's playing does nothing for me
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