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the musical box 
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 Topic: Genesis fans, help me!
Posted: November 15 2004 at 09:42 |
 frenchie wrote:
Vibrationbaby wrote:
G out to the music store and buy the entire Mariah catalogue ( just kidding ) I'm not a big Genesis fan but own all their stuff up to Wind and Wuthering. A good sampling of the real early stuff can be found On Genesis Live. Iwould also suggest you try some Gentle Giant. Not an easy band to get into but once acquire the taste you won't be able to get enough of them. My favourite Genesis track is Back In NYC off the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. |
i actually downloaded the gentle giant mp3s on this site and i liked them. "knots" is great! |
gentle giant is great. I suggest "octopus" , although its only about 30 mins long (i know , a bit on the short side) its very good and has "knots" on it. (wot a fun song!)
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Posted: November 15 2004 at 09:26 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
G out to the music store and buy the entire Mariah catalogue ( just kidding ) I'm not a big Genesis fan but own all their stuff up to Wind and Wuthering. A good sampling of the real early stuff can be found On Genesis Live. Iwould also suggest you try some Gentle Giant. Not an easy band to get into but once acquire the taste you won't be able to get enough of them. My favourite Genesis track is Back In NYC off the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway. |
i actually downloaded the gentle giant mp3s on this site and i liked them. "knots" is great!
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: November 15 2004 at 06:32 |
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G out to the music store and buy the entire Mariah catalogue ( just kidding ) I'm not a big Genesis fan but own all their stuff up to Wind and Wuthering. A good sampling of the real early stuff can be found On Genesis Live. Iwould also suggest you try some Gentle Giant. Not an easy band to get into but once acquire the taste you won't be able to get enough of them. My favourite Genesis track is Back In NYC off the Lamb Lies Down On Broadway.
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Posted: November 15 2004 at 03:35 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
No one, 47 or 17, is REQUIRED to like Genesis, or Gentle Giant, or Van Der Graaf Generator |
Wash your mouth out, professor! 
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Hangedman
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Posted: November 14 2004 at 23:21 |
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I remember the first time I heard Genesis. It was Selling England, I hated it. It seemed overdone, longwinded, and pompus. With all music though, I gave it a second listen. I instantly was converted, suddenly music was a different experiance for me. If it werent for Genesis, music wouldnt have a shred of its current importance in my life.
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frenchie
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Posted: November 14 2004 at 18:02 |
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my friend pete lent me selling england by the pound and i am loving it!
yay i am so happy. soon i will have to tackle the rest of trespass, foxtrot and TLLDOB.
thanx for all you help everybody!
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the musical box
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Posted: November 13 2004 at 23:09 |
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Ok, im obviously a huge Genesis fan. It all started two years ago when i decided to play my dad's vinyl of "A trick of The Tail" which, obviously, blew me away. It all began with this album and it seems to be the genesis album for the non fan (who eventually becomes devoted to the band). Being interested, i bought "FOxtrot" a few months later and was once again blown away. but this was a different Genesis...a Peter Gabriel genesis. This was a Genesis that was whimsical, smart and self indulgant. This was a Genesis band that ENJOYED the music. But since you already own "FOxtrot", perhaps getting "A Trick Of The Tail" will help you appeaciatte it more. You could also try the mellower, but brilliant "SElling England..." But for me, the "TRICK OF THE TAIL" and "FOXTROT" combination did wonders.
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Posted: November 13 2004 at 17:56 |
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get "The Battle of Epping Forest" and "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight".
Selling England by the Pound and The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway are my personal favorites.
I never liked genesis at first either, I didnt like peter's voice at the time, but I grew into it eventually and now peter is my favorite singer and genesis I like almost as much as my favorite band Rush!
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Posted: November 13 2004 at 17:45 |
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Yeah, if you're looking for blazing guitar distortion, you aren't going to find it with Genesis, thats for sure.
I'm a personal fan of Trick of the Tail, thats my favorite Genesis
album followed by Foxtrot and Selling England. I think the first side
of Trick is amazing... dance on a volcano, entangled, squonk, and mad
man moon are all fantastic pieces... especially entangled, man that
song is well done.
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Posted: November 13 2004 at 16:34 |
I concur with most opinion on here...When I was young I liked Genesis but I disliked Yes and ELP - thought they were too harsh and erratic, but eventually Yes and ELP became more and more appealing - Now I give everything a good listening to - and I feel that most prog has something to give me in the long-term.
The depth of choice is the best thing about prog because it covers music from the "Death-speed" Metal to the classical whisper........
Thats why we like it!
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 13 2004 at 16:25 |
As Peter rightly says, it's a matter of individual taste.
I like everything they done up to and including Duke in 1980. After that they were too pop for me. frenchie, I'm not surprised you were blown away by 'Dance on a volcano' Its a brilliant song, one of the best they ever wrote IMO. I love 'Foxtrot' I think its one of their best albums, along with 'The Lamb..' but my only criticism of the Gabriel era stuff is the production, and the fact they had not really matured as musicians. But, hey neither is their fault. It was the early 70's and they were still learning their craft.
I am a massive Genesis fan, but to me you sound like I am with Yes. I like certain tracks and generally their later stuff appeals more to me than the albums most Yes fans rave about like, 'Close to the edge' 'Fragile' etc..
Glad you liked 'In the cage' and 'The knife' Great songs! 
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Posted: November 13 2004 at 05:12 |
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'Seconds Out' is bland IMO.'Three Sides Live' is better as long you ignore the first 2 sides. |
Would that be "One side live" then Richard, or are you referring to the "Four sides live" version of "Three sides live"? 
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Posted: November 13 2004 at 03:20 |
NAh...I think we'll have to confiscate his progressive rock membership pin as well as his commenarative I'm a Peter Gabriel fan watch and subjecting him to his purgatory website for 24 hrs....and maybe 50 push ups as well!! 
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Peter
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Posted: November 13 2004 at 00:24 |
 Get a time machine, go back to around '72....
Taste is individual. Genesis has lots of beauty. Do you typically like harder-edged stuff?
Maybe you just haven't "grown into" Genesis yet -- it took me a year or so of exposure. Did you love coffee first time you tried it? Beer? Guinness stout?
Then again, not all of us here like all of the old prog bands equally well. No one, 47 or 17, is REQUIRED to like Genesis, or Gentle Giant, or Van Der Graaf Generator.
There is no magic formula to MAKE you like a given group or music type, though time often works.
I didn't like Victorian novels or Shakespeare when I was your age -- I love them now, but plenty of guys my age (my friends, even) have no interest in them.... Fair enough -- there's other things we agree on.
Good luck -- you'll find your prog niche! 
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Posted: November 12 2004 at 22:11 |
| 'Three Sides Live' is better as long you ignore the first 2 sides |
I have that too!
Yes, Genesis is just "one of those bands" that you may not like right away, which might turn away many potential fans. Same thing with most of Yes's songs. I had to listen to Roundabout and Siberian Khatru like 4 times before I started liking them!
Just don't give up on them, because Genesis is a very rewarding band.
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Posted: November 12 2004 at 20:44 |
My method to accept Gabriel Genesis is simple, start by this tracks:
- White Mountain...... Trespass
- Fountain of Salmacis......Nursery Cryme
- Harold the Barrell......Nursery Cryme
- Can-Utility and the Coastliners....Foxtrot
- Supper's Ready.....Foxtrot
- I Know What I Like....Selling England by the Pound
- Firth of Fifth.....Selling England by the Pound
- The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.....The Lamb
- In the Cage.....The Lamb
- Carpet Crawlers....The Lamb
Not necesarily the best tracks, but this selection I recorded in a cassette worked for a friend of mine who is a hardcore Genesis fan today.
When you get used to this songs, investigate deeper into the albums.
Iván
Edited by ivan_2068
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Posted: November 12 2004 at 18:14 |
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'Seconds Out' is bland IMO.'Three Sides Live' is better as long you ignore the first 2 sides.
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Posted: November 12 2004 at 18:09 |
Shatterwolf wrote:
I just dug out some of my dad's old Genesis: Seconds Out. Any of them good?
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Seconds Out is the perfect place to start!
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richardh
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Posted: November 12 2004 at 18:07 |
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It took me a long time to appreciate Foxtrot.No need to give up on it ,just give it time.There is no rush to have to like anything.
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Posted: November 12 2004 at 17:52 |
I just dug out some of my dad's old Genesis: Seconds Out. Any of them good?
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