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yeppp
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Topic: Do lyrics matter? Posted: April 04 2006 at 07:46 |
Paul K. wrote:
yeppp wrote:
Lyrics are very important of course.. That's why i dont listen to Yes
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Then does it mean, that say, if music is sh*t, but lyrics is awesome you'll still be listening to it? | Well
if the lyrics start to annoy you ( YES ) then i dont listen to it even
if the music is great.. AND I think yes is musically good but nothing
really great.. Technically amazing of course, Emotionally .. and when all these are counted i cant say I'm a fan of that band.. Influential they were, no doubt about it !
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 07:07 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Yes, they matter a lot to me, though not as much as the music.
Really poor/offensive lyrics will cause me to avoid the song or band altogether (as with much metal and hip hip).
I am highly language oriented, in any case.![Smile](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif)
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hmmm i find such lyrics as hilarious at best a bit tragic at worst. They are only words and it is up to the individual to think/act on such content.
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Paul K.
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Posted: April 04 2006 at 06:19 |
yeppp wrote:
Lyrics are very important of course.. That's why i dont listen to Yes
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Then does it mean, that say, if music is sh*t, but lyrics is awesome you'll still be listening to it?
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oracus
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 19:41 |
eugene wrote:
I mostly care about music, good lyrics are bonus. |
that's it
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DeepPhreeze
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 19:32 |
yeppp wrote:
Lyrics are very important of course.. That's why i dont listen to Yes
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Yes's lyrics have a lot of meaning to them --- you probably just don't understand the psychedelic counter-culture too well.
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cowbell1
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 18:09 |
Lyrics are crucial to music especially when it comes to Prog-rock. Most Prog albems have a story within the CD that just adds a element that not many see. Tommy by The Who would not be as great if there was no story intergrated within the albem. Also some Cds might not have a story but its around a time period. Cowboy Poems Free by Echolyn talks about the time of the Great Depression to the time of WWII or Vietnam.
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yeppp
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 14:36 |
Lyrics are very important of course.. That's why i dont listen to Yes
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dima_olkov
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 04:05 |
well, i do not really care about the lyrics. i consider them be o0ne more instrument - so there should be a good voice and mice voice melody.
although, i love floyd or genesis, for example, at 30-40% for their great lyrics (and vdgg too)
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Posted: April 03 2006 at 02:30 |
They go hand in hand to me.
I try to find the bands who are the best at combining the two into one powerful message. Though I don't believe that a song's lyrics must have meaning I think that they should convey the same emotion as the song's music. I also think that the vocalist can influence me either way. If a really powerful lyric is sung by some tone deaf loser it doesn't mean as much.
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Posted: April 02 2006 at 19:50 |
For me lyrics are a bonus to the music, but I prefer good lyrics over bad ones.
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Posted: April 02 2006 at 19:38 |
el böthy wrote:
Lyrics are the reason I got into Van
der Graaf in the first place!!! latter I liked Hammills voice a lot
more, and even the instrumentation...but if it wasn´t for the lyrics,
this bands wouldn´t have made it for me!!! So lyrics are pretty important!
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![](smileys/smiley32.gif) I've always thought they were amoung the most interesting if not the most, lyrically, of the great prog bands.
that said though... being a huge Yes fan and of non-english
(especially Italian) prog I could say in all honesty the lyrics really
mean little to me.... it's always been about the music.
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el böthy
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Posted: April 02 2006 at 19:31 |
Lyrics are the reason I got into Van der Graaf in the first place!!! latter I liked Hammills voice a lot more, and even the instrumentation...but if it wasn´t for the lyrics, this bands wouldn´t have made it for me!!! So lyrics are pretty important!
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DeepPhreeze
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Posted: April 02 2006 at 16:19 |
The music is definitely more important, but the vocals are an instrument too, but instead of just notes there's the added dimension of lyrics.
Look at Syd Barrett; his music was absolutely brilliant, but his lyrics ruined any chances for him to become famous.
I hate swanky lyrics, and sappy ones, and ones that go in no direction in particular. It mostly has to do with subject matter, but I'm sick of these bands throwing as many random 3-syllable words together. It was cool when At the Drive-In did it. It's not cool anymore. Cut it out.
As somebody said earlier, what would Genesis have been without its almost Shakespearean lyrics? What if Pink Floyd had abandoned its thought-provoking lines? How could RUSH have done 2112 if they hadn't chosen just the right words? Porcupine Tree would lose its ironic edge of innocence, Yes wouldn't have its 'monk-like' edge, Hawkwind would have been just another psychedelic-rock band...
...how can you relate your feelings to the music if the words don't flow?
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Cygnus X-1
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Posted: April 02 2006 at 11:59 |
Music is most important, lyrics are a secondary. Take a song like I Am The Walrus, lyrics make no sense at all but it's still an awsome song.
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Wilcey
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Posted: April 02 2006 at 05:37 |
Lyrics ARE important, equally as important as the
music I feel.
I also think that good lyrics are often written off
because although a listener may appreciate the
music they for some reason do not understand the
lyric, the don't 'get' what the author of the words is
trying to say, and when this happens it is easy to
write off the lyric as 'poor'.
Sometimes with a deeply emotional or personal lyric
a listener may feel uncomfortable with that feeling
and therefore would prefer to just have the music
only. I see this happen, and the reverse is also true, I
see people admire a band who's lyric is barely
audible, or understandable and are fine with that
because they do not have to rise to the challenge
that a good lyric can represent.
Of course there are poor lyrics out there, but I find it
difficult to listen to music with unintelligible lyrics.
P-C
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 01 2006 at 13:16 |
theres 2 things dat make good musik: beat and lyrics. there equally important cuz bad beat can spoil good lyric kinda like on that dr. dre song pimpin' in da hood - what was he thinkin great lyrics sucky beat and song ruined.
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Beren
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Posted: April 01 2006 at 13:09 |
Music is a series of sounds that somehow provoke certain reactions in humans. The human voice is also a sound that is just part of what we call music. However, lyrics are expressions of the human thought. Lyrics become (or have been interpreted and conceived) as literature. Therefore, they must be related to the music (or viceversa) in order to produce meanings and stirr emotions in the listener. There are songs that feature lyrics as a mandatory requirement. Other songs integrate lyrics into the music, and each part comments on the other. Lyrics and music are complementary, yet they can still exist, and produce meanings, when separated from the other. That's my opinion.
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Posted: April 01 2006 at 01:55 |
^^^No, but I saw a sound I can never explain
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Posted: March 31 2006 at 02:26 |
did everything just taste purple for a second?
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Oxygen Waster
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Posted: March 31 2006 at 02:20 |
I pretty much need good music and vocals...although I am more forgiving with vocals than music.
Arent vocals music?![](smileys/smiley2.gif)
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