Prog Wars

Vibrationbaby wrote: danbo wrote: I wonder how the Prog gods could actually fair against the likes of McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Shawn Lane (RIP), Hellborg, Jimmy Johnson, Chad Wackerman, and a host of others. Quite like comparing apples to oranges. I like speed of light playing. Check out Buckethead on a good day (alas too many off days) for a shreadfest - does a tremendous set with acoustic guitar on  Hellborg/Buckethead/Shrieve's Octave Of The Holy Innocent  If you can find it the Guru Guru album Dance Of The Flames has a guitar player, Houschang Nejadepour who could give McLaughlin, Akkerman, Holdsworth et al a run for their money! Check out the track " The Day Of Timestop". It's like the guy is from another planet, and he' not playing in a slack key either!

You'll have to enlighten me for comparison purposes: while I possess a considerably greater number of Holdsworth and McLaughlin records, I've only have Houschang Nejadepour on two albums. The mentioned Mahavishnu Orchestra-influenced Dance Of the Flames, and on Eiliff's 1972 album Close Encounter With Their Third One - which is more a showcase for Rainer  Bruninghaus's key- (NOTE: Bruninghaus is mostly associated with Jan Garbarek nowdays and the ECM Record label). Neither of these albums'  guitarwork (IMHO) bear any comparison with the two Yorkshire maestros - so I guess I've missed something, where else should I look and listen?

danbo wrote: Hmm, I wonder how the Prog gods could actually fair against the likes of McLaughlin, Holdsworth, Shawn Lane (RIP), Hellborg, Jimmy Johnson, Chad Wackerman, and a host of others. Quite like comparing apples to oranges. What features or techniques are actually measurable?   Speed, accuracy, difficulty of piece played? Feel and Emotion are subjective. So then, what's the point?

I like speed of light playing. Feel and emotion can take a back seat. One of my favourite guitar duels is John Mclaughlin and Larry Coryell on the album Spaces. If you can find it the Guru Guru album Dace Of The Flames has a guitar player, Houschang Nejadepour who could give McLaughlin, Akkerman, Holdsworth et al a run for their money! Check out the track " The Day Of Timestop". It's like the guy is from another planet, and he' not playing in a slack key either! 

Greg Lake vs. John Wetton

to see how many times they can replace each other a band...

My Father was an amateur jazz drummer, and his hero was of course, Gene Krupa.....Now my dad could play a bit and so could my grandad ! - However my father did listen to some of my music and in his opinion - Neil Peart was the finest modern drummer he had heard, and his favorite bit of drumming in my record collection at the time.....

Gates of delirium (middle section) - Alan White - My dad thought it was truly amazing....and I would have to agree !

Three fates - Sorry petal, but the caped crusader would get my vote over Emerson, Mainly for the Church organ supremacy !

Guitar - Howe gets it for the sheer "clankingness" of his guitar, just above Hackett whos playing is smoother than a Roxy music track.....

Steve Howe vs. Anyone :D

Chris Squire Vs, Geddy Lee

 

Alan white vs. Bill Bruford

 

 

WOOOOO! VAI IS GOD!

And Wakeman could take anyone, even Rudess

Apples and Oranges battling to the death......

 

 

 

 

Would make a great smoothie!  

I think Chris Squire could give Geddy Lee a good fight, both are incredible bass players and their originality is unique.

In the drums section I'd prefer seeing Mike Giles battling it out with Neil. Both have their own style, but I think Giles's playing style is "wilder" (in a way) than Bruford's  more "melodic" (uh? :/) drums.


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JrKASperov wrote: Hmm, another really good bassist is Wetton methinks. I wonder how good he is right now, since on Starless and Larks he was REALLY fast now and then. And his improvisation is way above my head, just can';t put my finger on it.

yeah. Wetton's bass work with Crimson certainly freaked me out especially live. Check ou The 4 CD set The Great Deciever or USA. Wicked interaction between Wetton and Bruford on the kit.

Reed Lover wrote: Methinks thou dost understimate Mr Lee, Mr Heath. Jeff is an acknowledged "great" of the bass guitar but for musicians in North America, Geddy has been the most influencial bassist of the last 25 years and I am not talking fan base either.

Oh dear sitting here in the UK, I thought Jaco Pastorius was the boss of the bass wrt that influence.

Obviously Jeff Berlin has been  involved in a number of rock albums (and  with Neil Peart), but how's is Geddy Lee's jazz electric bass playing?