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adamw
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Topic: The Usual Suspects Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:55 |
What I find is funny is I'm just almost 18 by now, and most of my mates
don't even know what elp or rush are. They may occasionally know Yes and
quite often do know Genesis, but not for their prog era's, but just
what they made afterwards. So there are no prog stereotypes for me -
people around just don't know what prog is. And some of those, whom I
showed prog just find it pointless, but I can't possibly guess which
band affects it the most. I think it's for sure not rush - the're
not typicall (defined by the "stereotypes") prog, so let's leave them.
Each of the other bands put their bit to what I wrote.
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micky
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:20 |
ELP for sure... and those sterotypes.... isn't that what we love about prog anyway hahahhah
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:18 |
ELP are probably the most responsible for all the comments about prog's excesses in the mainstream media, with Yes a close second. Not entirely without justification either, although it would be nice to see some acknowledgment of their positive qualities as well.
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el böthy
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 12:56 |
ELP...not that theres anything wrong with them...but I guess most people think prog is just about what ELP deliver...
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condor
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Posted: March 12 2006 at 11:18 |
I don't mean stereotyped as in all their albums
sound the same but have recurring themes and
styles that outside listeners expect as part of their
stereotype of prog, which these bands serve to
confirm i.e. pretentious lyrics, pointless or
meaningless conceptual storylines, singing each
word in an epic manner, excessive use of keyboards
and synthesisers et cetera. This isn't an inditement
of a band's musical quality but their wider style and
life ethos eg Yes asking Patrick Moraz to become a
vegetarian in order to join them.
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ryba
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 14:55 |
i see some schizoid tendencies. since genesis have been changing their style they have been always to be atacked by purists, the same with yes and rush. if they had not done changes they would have been attacked as steretypists, obviously they are anyway. Personally, they are all great musicians making what they want and not worrying about into which drawer they would be put. i like them all very much, in particular for their inventions and courage to change music always.
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:48 |
I do not think this question is put correctly, as it contains contradiction in itself. IMO the word "to create" something new, which is later becoming stereotype - is directly related to Prog, whilst to be adherent to stereotypes or cliche - is rather regressive in its sense.
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condor
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:38 |
adamw wrote:
which stereotypes?
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Try asking a member of the general public
what they think of prog and you'll realise the
stereotypes?
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adamw
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:36 |
which stereotypes?
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condor
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Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:31 |
Which band adheres to prog's sterotypes the most
or contributes most to creating them in the first
place?
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