The Usual Suspects
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Topic: The Usual Suspects
Posted By: condor
Subject: The Usual Suspects
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:31
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Which band adheres to prog's sterotypes the most
or contributes most to creating them in the first place? |
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Posted By: adamw
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:36
| which stereotypes? |
Posted By: condor
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:38
what they think of prog and you'll realise the stereotypes? |
adamw wrote:Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 13:48
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I do not think this question is put correctly, as it contains contradiction in itself. IMO the word "to create" something new, which is later becoming stereotype - is directly related to Prog, whilst to be adherent to stereotypes or cliche - is rather regressive in its sense. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: ryba
Date Posted: March 11 2006 at 14:55
| i see some schizoid tendencies. since genesis have been changing their style they have been always to be atacked by purists, the same with yes and rush. if they had not done changes they would have been attacked as steretypists, obviously they are anyway. Personally, they are all great musicians making what they want and not worrying about into which drawer they would be put. i like them all very much, in particular for their inventions and courage to change music always. |
Posted By: condor
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 11:18
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I don't mean stereotyped as in all their albums
sound the same but have recurring themes and styles that outside listeners expect as part of their stereotype of prog, which these bands serve to confirm i.e. pretentious lyrics, pointless or meaningless conceptual storylines, singing each word in an epic manner, excessive use of keyboards and synthesisers et cetera. This isn't an inditement of a band's musical quality but their wider style and life ethos eg Yes asking Patrick Moraz to become a vegetarian in order to join them. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 12:56
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ELP...not that theres anything wrong with them...but I guess most people think prog is just about what ELP deliver...
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:18
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ELP are probably the most responsible for all the comments about prog's excesses in the mainstream media, with Yes a close second. Not entirely without justification either, although it would be nice to see some acknowledgment of their positive qualities as well. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:20
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ELP for sure... and those sterotypes.... isn't that what we love about prog anyway hahahhah
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: adamw
Date Posted: March 12 2006 at 15:55
| What I find is funny is I'm just almost 18 by now, and most of my mates don't even know what elp or rush are. They may occasionally know Yes and quite often do know Genesis, but not for their prog era's, but just what they made afterwards. So there are no prog stereotypes for me - people around just don't know what prog is. And some of those, whom I showed prog just find it pointless, but I can't possibly guess which band affects it the most. I think it's for sure not rush - the're not typicall (defined by the "stereotypes") prog, so let's leave them. Each of the other bands put their bit to what I wrote. |