Vai or Satriani

^ I don't think that Vai sounds like Satriani *at all* ... of course one tapping solo will always sound somewhat similar to another tapping solo which uses similar patterns/technique (same applies to sweep picking etc). But the tonal material of Vai is fundamentaly different from Satch. The closest Vai comes to Satriani is on Fire Garden (first half) ... but even there Vai's music is inherently (and in this case subconsciously) quirky and experimental, whereas Satch is always more melodic and conventional - even with all the unusual scales and tunings he uses.

I like both very much btw ... I'm not trying to "diss" Satch - I'm just saying that he's typical Guitar Shred (he defined the genre) while Vai is shredding too (obviously), but at the same time much more inventive in terms of songwriting and "unusuality". 

schizoid_man77 wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: schizoid_man77 wrote: Satch,  super collosal is incredible.   It seems like when you've heard one Vai song, you've heard 'em all Super Colossal was a very, very disappointing album for me ... one word: "boring" ! As far as Vai is concerned ... do you even know Vai songs other than For the Love of God? Consider other well known songs such as Bad Horsie, Answers, Sisters, Call it Sleep?, The Attitude Song, ... are you really saying that they all sound alike?   I love guitars, and I love metal, but I am one of those losers who say almost all shred sounds alike. Super collosal is very divers and not as pretensious (depending on who you ask that could be a good or bad thing), and well rounded.   Vai's albums on the other hand, tend to flip flop from fast, to slow, to acoustic, to fast. Thats just me though.

So first it all sounds the same, and now it's too diverse?

It's a close call, since they are both the most progressive shredders out there, and make music as opposing to simply flaunting their skill. I'm gonna go with Vai, just cause I get into his stuff more, but I still love me some Satch.

Vai

Satriani gave Vai guitar lessons in the early 70s. According to Wikipedia Vai was 13 years old and Satriani was 17 years old at that time, and the lessons lasted only for a few years. I'd say that Vai's style was much more influenced by his years with Zappa though ...

jimidom wrote: staunchally wrote: el böthy wrote: I prefer Satriani way over Vai...I just don´t like him very much...althought I must admit that technically he is "better" than Satriani   How so? Vai is more technically adept with more speed and precision. Furthermore, he has the benefit of a music education from Berklee. Personally, I prefer Vai because I find his playing and songwriting more interesting; he's like a more technical version of Frank Zappa, with whom he played early on.

schizoid_man77 wrote: Satch,  super collosal is incredible.   It seems like when you've heard one Vai song, you've heard 'em all

Super Colossal was a very, very disappointing album for me ... one word: "boring" !

As far as Vai is concerned ... do you even know Vai songs other than For the Love of God? Consider other well known songs such as Bad Horsie, Answers, Sisters, Call it Sleep?, The Attitude Song, ... are you really saying that they all sound alike?


Edited by MikeEnRegalia - September 24 2007 at 05:53

Satch,  super collosal is incredible.

satch. did you know he taught vai? (bad joke...heh) 

MikeEnRegalia wrote: I wonder how many of you all even know Vai's Flexable albums - or his work with the Metropole Orkest. Like 10x more creative than what Satriani ever did ... and I am a Satriani fan, don't get me wrong. But apart from Surfing with the Alien and Engines of Creation I cannot find nearly as much adventurous stuff as Vai has on ALL his albums.