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el böthy
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Topic: Subgenre discussion Posted: February 21 2006 at 10:06 |
We should make a new genre: Crimson in which we could put Crimson in, and explain the change in nature this genre has and why there is only one band under it!
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BaldFriede
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Posted: February 21 2006 at 06:29 |
The same is true with VdGG. I never felt comfortable with having them
placed into "Symphonic". Yes, some of their work is symphonic, but
there are also strong elements of avantgarde. Does anyone really think
disc 2 of "Present" is symphonic prog, for example? But that's the
general problem with classification in the database. I would much
prefer genrés assigned to albums rather than artists.
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____VdGG____
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 23:55 |
You should simply label it as King Crimson, because it's certainly not symphonic, for the most part, and it would just fit every other classification on this website even more loosely
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King of Loss
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 19:26 |
FragileDT wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Well, I feel having King Crimson in the "Symphonic Prog" subgenre is both misleading and confusing. Only a few of their albums are symphonic. And if you're feeling a sense of deja vu reading this, yes, it has been said countless times before.
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Maybe because the "Symphonic" obsessed freaks don't like the latter period!
I think KC should be placed in mhmm.........
Mhmmm......
Mhmmm....
Let's say Art Rock, ok?
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I would say Avant-garde prog.
EDIT: Than again, Crimson is Crimson. Labels are overrated. |
Yea... That was my second choice, but once again, King Crimson is above labeling.
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FragileDT
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 19:22 |
King of Loss wrote:
stonebeard wrote:
Well, I feel having King Crimson in the "Symphonic Prog"
subgenre is both misleading and confusing. Only a few of their albums
are symphonic. And if you're feeling a sense of deja vu reading this, yes,
it has been said countless times before.
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Maybe because the "Symphonic" obsessed freaks don't like the latter
period!
I think KC should be placed in mhmm.........
Mhmmm......
Mhmmm....
Let's say Art Rock, ok? |
I would say Avant-garde prog.
EDIT: Than again, Crimson is Crimson. Labels are overrated.
Edited by FragileDT
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King of Loss
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 19:14 |
stonebeard wrote:
Well, I feel having King Crimson in the "Symphonic Prog" subgenre is both misleading and confusing. Only a few of their albums are symphonic. And if you're feeling a sense of deja vu reading this, yes, it has been said countless times before.
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Maybe because the "Symphonic" obsessed freaks don't like the latter period!
I think KC should be placed in mhmm.........
Mhmmm......
Mhmmm....
Let's say Art Rock, ok?
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The Miracle
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 19:05 |
"Art rock" is a very strange one as well, looks like the bands that cannot be categorized or play different genres are placed there
For example, TMV should be in the RIO/avant-prog section.
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stonebeard
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 18:55 |
Well, I feel having King Crimson in the "Symphonic Prog" subgenre is both misleading and confusing. Only a few of their albums are symphonic. And if you're feeling a sense of deja vu reading this, yes, it has been said countless times before.
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WillieThePimp
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Posted: February 20 2006 at 02:41 |
I had a question about A.C.T being decided upon as Art Rock. To me, I
believe they have a much more symphonic vibe, especially with
orchestral sounds and instruments in every song.
If this needs to be moved to another forum I apologize.
Edited by WillieThePimp
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