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Topic: Subgenre discussion
Posted By: WillieThePimp
Subject: Subgenre discussion
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 02:41
I had a question about A.C.T being decided upon as Art Rock. To me, I believe they have a much more symphonic vibe, especially with orchestral sounds and instruments in every song.

If this needs to be moved to another forum I apologize.


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 18:55

Well, I feel having King Crimson in the "Symphonic Prog" subgenre is both misleading and confusing. Only a few of their albums are symphonic. And if you're feeling a sense of deja vu reading this, yes, it has been said countless times before.



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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 19:05

"Art rock" is a very strange one as well, looks like the bands that cannot be categorized or play different genres are placed there

For example, TMV should be in the RIO/avant-prog section.



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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 19:14
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Well, I feel having King Crimson in the "Symphonic Prog" subgenre is both misleading and confusing. Only a few of their albums are symphonic. And if you're feeling a sense of deja vu reading this, yes, it has been said countless times before.

Maybe because the "Symphonic" obsessed freaks don't like the latter period!

I think KC should be placed in mhmm.........

Mhmmm......

Mhmmm....

Let's say Art Rock, ok?



Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 19:22
Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


Well, I feel having King Crimson in the "Symphonic Prog"
subgenre is both misleading and confusing. Only a few of their albums
are symphonic. And if you're feeling a sense of deja vu reading this, yes,
it has been said countless times before.



Maybe because the "Symphonic" obsessed freaks don't like the latter
period!


I think KC should be placed in mhmm.........


Mhmmm......


Mhmmm....


Let's say Art Rock, ok?



I would say Avant-garde prog.

EDIT: Than again, Crimson is Crimson. Labels are overrated.

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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 19:26
Originally posted by FragileDT FragileDT wrote:

Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


Well, I feel having King Crimson in the "Symphonic Prog"
subgenre is both misleading and confusing. Only a few of their albums
are symphonic. And if you're feeling a sense of deja vu reading this, yes,
it has been said countless times before.



Maybe because the "Symphonic" obsessed freaks don't like the latter
period!


I think KC should be placed in mhmm.........


Mhmmm......


Mhmmm....


Let's say Art Rock, ok?



I would say Avant-garde prog.

EDIT: Than again, Crimson is Crimson. Labels are overrated.

Yea... That was my second choice, but once again, King Crimson is above labeling.



Posted By: ____VdGG____
Date Posted: February 20 2006 at 23:55
You should simply label it as King Crimson, because it's certainly not symphonic, for the most part, and it would just fit every other classification on this website even more loosely

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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 06:29
The same is true with VdGG. I never felt comfortable with having them placed into "Symphonic". Yes, some of their work is symphonic, but there are also strong elements of avantgarde. Does anyone really think disc 2 of "Present" is symphonic prog, for example? But that's the general problem with classification in the database. I would much prefer genrés assigned to albums rather than artists.

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: February 21 2006 at 10:06
We should make a new genre: Crimson in which we could put Crimson in, and explain the change in nature this genre has and why there is only one band under it!

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