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FusionKing
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Topic: Wishbone Ash Posted: December 31 2009 at 11:51 |
The vocals aren't up to scratch with Pilgrimage and Argus but I'm loving the music on it.
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FusionKing
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Posted: December 31 2009 at 11:47 |
I'm going to go with Locked In 'cause I'm sitting listening to it just now and it's sounding pretty good.
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Posted: December 31 2009 at 07:34 |
I went for There's The Rub.
Argus is of course a classic and the first album is also indispensible in my books, but TTR has a great live sound with really up-front bass.
BTW - the fourth album is actually called Wishbone Four (not 'Four') and I don't think Illuminations should be included because it is the first of Andy Powell's many bogus albums featuring himself and unknown salaried sidemen, rather than the 'proper' band itself (with a quorum of original members). That stuff is like what Roger Waters said of Floyd without himself ... a passable forgery. It is not really true of Floyd - but definitely is of Wishbone Ash.
Edited by Ghostmojo - December 31 2009 at 07:36
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Posted: August 24 2009 at 07:10 |
Argus is my favorite. The King Will Come is the highlight of the album for me. And how could anyone not appreciate the lyrics of that song? I like Pilgrimage, Live Dates, and New England. That talk box guitar(Frampton style or Jeff Beck) always got to me, but the songwriting on NE is something that I can't pass up....In All Of My Dreams, come to think of it may be like early Camel...Moonmadness period. I never had the chance to hear Live Dates Vol.II. I bet that's a decent record to check out right?
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Posted: August 17 2009 at 20:56 |
I was reading comments on Wishbone Ash. One person even called them boring. Boring?
With the internet you can find so much. I was a big fan up to WA 4, kinda drifted away with all the great groups at the time. I feel that Argus was the perfect album, start to finish. Andy and his Buds have done a great job keeping WA going strong. The remake of the Argus album on XM was great.
I saw them play at a small club in Ohio in 2007. They captivated the crowd start to finish. There are alot of Ash cd`s out there now. I like the live in Hamburg CD personally.
I can`t take a drive without poping a WA cd in the disc drive. I still have many favs. but Wishbone Ash is simply the best
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Wishbone Ash is simply :The Best"
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Posted: August 16 2009 at 06:01 |
Not sure if "astute" is a criteria for Wishbone Ash's music - it sounds good to me from whichever intelligence it's using. I don't think the music seeks to gain any kind of advantage necessarily - but it certainly did. You can easily hear the huge number of bands they influenced (as well as their obvious influences).
I haven't listened to Black Widow much, but what I've heard doesn't seem to have the "big picture" viewpoint that Wishbone Ash clearly did - Black Widow's musicial designs and compositional techniques seem less "astute" if anything (if that's really the word you meant), IIRC.
I'll revisit their material at my earliest convenience, as it's true that you don't always pick everything up in a few listens - I always enjoy listening to music from that time.
I disagree that WA were progressively more boring - the first album is OK - obviously down tempo and free from unnecessary intricacies, but not what I'd call boring. Pilrimage is superb - a real blast off by comparison, and Argus is the culmination of that progression, as far as I cal tell. Sounds to me like they certainly got more interesting as they progressed - why would you think they got more boring (unless you simply didn't like it!)?
I was listening to Pilgrimage last night - it just seems to get better with every listen. I like Argus, but Pilgrimage just rocks. Nothing boring about it at all - depends on your attention span, I suppose...
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Posted: August 15 2009 at 10:57 |
They were progressively more boring than their first album was already boring from the start. A more astute group then were Black Widow.
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Posted: July 31 2009 at 23:57 |
Wishbone Four was my first album by them, and I wasn't sure I liked it. But then it grew on me over time. Later I got Argus and New England, both of which I like a lot. Had a chance to see them play in a small club, too, and that blew me away even more. They're fantastic (and tight) as a live band.
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 19:58 |
Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash, the band formed a couple of years back by the former bassplayer and lead vocalist, have also re-recorded Argus. A studio version in their case, with John Wetton and Geoff Downes guesting on Throw Down The Sword (Asia share management with MTWA, and of course JW was briefly in Wishbone, replacing Martin who had just left, just prior to joining Asia).
Looking forward to hearing it, as they were stunning live in Glasgow earlier this year.
Argus Then Again Live (recorded for US station XM radio in front of a small audience during the summer) is tremendous. We'll be seeing WA (the current lineup, led by sole survivor Andy Powell) soon, for the fifth time since 2006. A great band.
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 19:30 |
It`s hard to nail down my fav. CD, they are all great, I rarley listen to anything else. Wishbone Ash
" Time Was....Dbl. live set is anohter great set. Just ordered the Argus remake " Then Again" can`t wait to listen to that one.
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Wishbone Ash is simply :The Best"
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Posted: September 21 2008 at 23:48 |
We still don't know who voted for ''LOCKED IN''???? ...I would like to read his comment why!
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Posted: September 20 2008 at 00:46 |
Live Dates and Pilgrimage Oh And Wishbone Ash one the best Live !!! bands i have ever seen
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Posted: September 19 2008 at 19:50 |
Argus:proggy,epic,magnificent twin guitar solos and concept about knighthood. Live Dates is good too:I love Phoenix
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 05:29 |
Chris Stacey wrote:
Wishbone Four for me, sentimental reasons. Ballad of Big is awesome.. |
Did Genesis cover a Wishbone Ash song? ;-)
I'm sure that you meant Ballad of the Beacon
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 04:44 |
Wishbone Four for me, sentimental reasons. Ballad of Big is awesome..
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Posted: August 29 2008 at 04:09 |
It has to be Argus for me too.
I love four of the first five albums.I think that 'Four' is weaker than the first three but they made up for it on 'There's The Rub'.Laurie Wisefield debuts with some blistering fretwork.
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Posted: August 27 2008 at 23:16 |
I won't try to be smart and vote ''Locked in''.......like everybody else i think ARGUS is above the rest.
As mentioned above, EVERYBODY NEEDS A FRIEND happens to be my favorite song by them...9mns of wonderful music.....a ballad as good as ITCOTCK song.
.........VOL 4 is not that bad. you know!
LIVE DATES is something else as well!!
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Posted: August 27 2008 at 16:44 |
Predictably, I went for Argus... with Pilgrimage a very close second.
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Posted: August 27 2008 at 16:37 |
Drachen Theaker wrote:
One vote for Pilgramage, a much underrated album that gets overshadowed by Argus. It has a lot of tracks every bit as good - Vas Dis, title track, Valediction, Lullabye and Alone. Love that twin lead guitar sound of Ted and Andy.
Yeah that album was a really stander!!! i vote for that.
It is partially spoilt though by two godawful 'boogie' tracks Jailbait and Where were you Tomorrow? From the Ash albums I've heard the first three are the strongest. After that they seemed to get less ambitious and more West Coast.
You have to listen to the "Vocal Version" of Alone, it's incredible!!! |
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Posted: March 23 2008 at 20:05 |
There's the Rub, both FUBB and Persephone are memorable. Truth be said though, Live Dates is the best Ash album, because they shone live!
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