What is the most psychedelic prog?

Lomboklombok- A german friend on SoulSeek has Die grune Reise by A.R & Machines and am listening to it now and i like  its surprisingly acoustic in places. But some crazy stuff going on in there too!!!!

Dick - Not sure if their are any specialist CD stores in Prague i never got the chance to look  which is a shame because everything is incredibly cheap there! I was forced to look at all those darn touristy places. heh

Hairy's Toenail- I agree with that you all the dealers at Record Fairs do trade the best stuff before they open but i have a friend that a dealer  too.

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Yep, White Noise's 'Electric Storm' was mentioned, and a great album it is too! The 2nd White Noise album is pretty tripped out but has lots of cheesy moments too, which might dilute its value for some... I like it, though. The 3rd one has its moments, too.

Not sure if I mentioned the first 2 Clearlight albums, 'Symphony' and 'Forever Blowing Bubbles'... the first features musicians from Gong and Lard Free! The Clearlight-related Delired Chamaeleon Family album is pretty cool too.

Re: where do we get our stuff? I scour record shops whenever I can, but in Australia it's pretty hard to find much of the rarer and obscure stuff [unless you're lucky, or you're prepared to part with lots of money]. Even Australian prog is mostly pretty rare here on vinyl, with the exception of Sebastian Hardie and Windchase albums, which are pretty easy to find for a reasonable price [don't like 'em much, myself]. I don't go to record fairs much because I hate that feeling of racing through to find the gold before someone beats you to it. It seems a lot of the best stuff often gets traded between the dealers, anyway, so there's a lot of great stuff at such fairs that the customers never get a chance at. On the rare occasion I get to another country I certainly spend most of my time in record shops - I got my copy of Achim Reichel's 'Die Grune Reise' in Amsterdam for 40 euros. A friend who used to work at a record shop got his hands on a copy of 'Ehrolung' [another example of the customers never seeing the best stuff that comes through - unless you're friends with the staff]. It's a big shame that there are no official CD reissues of any of the classic early Achim Reichel or A.R. & Machines albums. There are bootlegs of all but Echo, but they're pretty hard to find these days. I imagine if I started looking 10 or 15 years ago, it might have been easier!

In the end, though, most of the stuff in my collection I've had to order from overseas, or I've taped rare LP's from friends. Ultima Thule have served very well in much of my purchasing! Record Heaven in Sweden is also pretty good, and I've gotten some hard to find CD's from Doug Larson Imports.

Gong has been mentioned previously but may I suggest that their meisterwerk 'Camembert Electric' is best enjoyed while in a nice hot bath with a glass of good wine and a cheese and pickle sandwich

Has anybody mentioned 'An Electric Storm' by White Noise yet?

 

 

I'd also like to add Man's self-titled 1970 album! Mainly for 'The Alchemist'.

Don't understand a word of this-but it's lovely to see a bit of passion about the forum again!

Zappa123 & Harry's Toenail (2 great names for psyka, psycho, erm hippy- trippy bands) why are you so worried about upsetting each other-just go with what you believe

what about Phalis dei (i dont think i spelled that right sry) from amonduul 2 , serously, thats some messed up shat

Italy had only one psychedelic band but was  surely the best in the world:

 

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Re: Butthole Surfers - yeah, I've always thought of them as a psychedelic band too! Until the last decade or so, that is... back in my acid-crazed days of youth they were certainly a tripping fave with me, especially 'Hairway to Steven'. I was so happy to discover them, as I started out getting into lots of psychedelic and early heavy rock and the Buttholes were the first 'modern' psychedelic band I'd found who I thought were really psychedelic - and of course early Monster Magnet!

Re: Stereolab, they've definitely done some pretty tripped-out tracks here and there, scattered across their albums.

Re: Boredoms - I hear live these days they're largely a percussive group. The album I listed is not like that, so you might still like it. I've never seen them live but friends who saw them back in their more anarchic heyday have said they were the best live band they ever saw. However they're constantly changing - and I'm not sure if they're still together now or if they're all doing their own things.

Re: In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, on Julian Cope's Head Heritage site someone did a review of this album suggesting you play the title track at 45rpm for a more enjoyable version. Of course it's arguable whether it's better that way but it does sound pretty good! [also, of course, the drum solo doesn't go for as long!]

Peter Rideout - not sure what you mean there! Regarding the avatar though, I just picked it from the list of avatars when I registered, because I play bass. Didn't realise each image was for exclusive use!

I should add that i only ever talk in terms of music genres at all in order to make some sense when trying to communicate with other people. As much as I hate pigeon-holing things it seems necessary sometimes, to avoid lengthy and boring descriptions and just get a general idea across. Of course everyone has their own idea of what 'genre names' signify so even this is not foolproof, as Zappa123 astutely pointed out. Just a little while ago I was having a heated debate with my wife about the difference between rap and hip-hop [and if there was any real difference], and after an hour or so we'd still failed to reach any real agreement

Zappa123 - I didn't mean to offend you like this! I think I must have gotten carried away trying to show my point and you took it personally, which I didn't intend. I wasn't trying to say you were narrow-minded as a person, but that I thought the idea of saying that the 70's stuff I had listed wasn't really psychedelic seemed to imply that for you the term was restricted to use for bands from the 60's psychedelic era. I was having a rant against the limiting definitions some people try to put on what is and what isn't psychedelic music, based more on era and particular styles than on the total psychedelic effect. Personally I try to take a very broad view rather than creating boundaries, contrary to what [I think] you think I was trying to say. I don't usually use the psych/psychedelic distinction myself. I had thought that perhaps the stuff you were saying was psychedelic rather than the stuff I'd suggested fitted more in the realm of what many other people prefer to refer to as 'psych'. I don't think much of the distinction but lots of people use it to distinguish 60's psychedelic music from the later more progressive stuff that is psychedelic; I just brought it into the conversation because I thought it might have made things clearer. Personally, I usually lump them all together because there is no real cut-off point between it all. 

Oh well, lots of misinterpretations of each other's posts - but please Zappa123, don't get too upset about anything I say, I mean no harm! I just do tend to get passionate once I start up about something but I don't intentionally snipe at people.