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Erik 
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 Topic: Satriani vs. Vai
Posted: December 13 2005 at 17:22 |
 sularetal wrote:
What does prerogative mean?
My english is poor...... |
It means you are entiteled to that opinion, in this case.
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Xymphony
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 17:16 |
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Suki
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 16:52 |
sularetal wrote:
memowakeman wrote:
sularetal wrote:
Let's not forget JS is Vai's teacher. However I'm sure most people here will choose vai because his sound is closer to prog. I saw vai a month ago and he was amazing. His technique, his compositions, his F*ck!ng INCREDIBLE band....everything.
However having seen the first two G3 concerts and owing some vai and some satriani cds I have to say I'm more attracted by Satriani's playing.....
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Not exactly, i will choose Vai, only because he is better than Joe
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Bull*hit how do you know that? I hate it when people say that.... "Oh I'll vote for Portnoy of course.....he's much faster and more creative than neil peart is ever going to be"
The point is which one appeals you..... Which one YOU enjoy the most. To know who's better you have to put them next to each other and tell them to play the same things but still I think you wouldnt be able to say.......
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That's also bullsh*t. You wouldn't be able to judge between their techniques, if you do, you'll probably judge on base of who has made much more impression on you and what sound you prefer the most.. That's all..
GoldenSpiral wrote:
satch owns vai.
I simply cannot stand Vai's personality on or off stage, and I think overall he focuses way too much on image and flash rather than content of music.
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Ahh.. too bad. When I see his stage performance, it makes me see the guitarist with great technique who's playing with great emotion. All I see is just a man who enjoys music and sings with his guitar.
Besides, even if his stage performance wasn't to my liking, I'd probably have prefered it over seeing him standing in one place and without any movement..
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sularetal
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 16:28 |
What does prerogative mean?
My english is poor......
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sularetal
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 16:26 |
memowakeman wrote:
sularetal wrote:
memowakeman wrote:
sularetal wrote:
Let's not forget JS is Vai's teacher. However I'm sure most people here will choose vai because his sound is closer to prog. I saw vai a month ago and he was amazing. His technique, his compositions, his F*ck!ng INCREDIBLE band....everything.
However having seen the first two G3 concerts and owing some vai and some satriani cds I have to say I'm more attracted by Satriani's playing.....
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Not exactly, i will choose Vai, only because he is better than Joe
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Bull*hit how do you know that? I hate it when people say that.... "Oh I'll vote for Portnoy of course.....he's much faster and more creative than neil peart is ever going to be"
The point is which one appeals you..... Which one YOU enjoy the most. To know who's better you have to put them next to each other and tell them to play the same things but still I think you wouldnt be able to say.......
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you´re right 
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Wow!!!!! Not the answer I expected.... I'm happy to see that in this forums there are no egomaniacs!!!!! Been to many forums but everywhere else everybody thinks he's right.
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memowakeman
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 14:00 |
sularetal wrote:
memowakeman wrote:
sularetal wrote:
Let's not forget JS is Vai's teacher. However I'm sure most people here will choose vai because his sound is closer to prog. I saw vai a month ago and he was amazing. His technique, his compositions, his F*ck!ng INCREDIBLE band....everything.
However having seen the first two G3 concerts and owing some vai and some satriani cds I have to say I'm more attracted by Satriani's playing.....
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Not exactly, i will choose Vai, only because he is better than Joe
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Bull*hit how do you know that? I hate it when people say that.... "Oh I'll vote for Portnoy of course.....he's much faster and more creative than neil peart is ever going to be"
The point is which one appeals you..... Which one YOU enjoy the most. To know who's better you have to put them next to each other and tell them to play the same things but still I think you wouldnt be able to say.......
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you´re right
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stonebeard
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 13:39 |
sularetal wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
sularetal wrote:
Let's not forget JS is Vai's teacher.
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Wow ... let us quickly forget that. IF ANY person deserves to be called Vai's "teacher", then it would be Zappa.
Yes sorry. Too strong word . I agree with that but he surely influenced him.
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MikeEnRegalia wrote:
That's your prerogative.
Don't know what this means..... sorry
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You weren't wrong. Satriani did at first teach Vai a bit of playing early on. I'm sure Mike knows this, but he was referencing to Vai being in Zappa's band for awhile.
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 13:34 |
jdtrbn wrote:
Vai has one good song (For the love of God), Satriani has two(Always with me, always with you and Mountain Song) .
So, I choose Satriani. I'm not really fond of either's playing, it's somehow ear-numbing.
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What have you heard by either?
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Drew
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 13:29 |
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Satriani- writes better songs, more musical!!!
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 13:08 |
dysrhytm wrote:
I prefer Vai and his band is great especially Tony MacAlpine! |
Yea, I saw that MacAlpine and Sheehan played with him on the G3 DVD, and I was quite pleased. They're both incredible, incredible musicians. However, among all of the talent up there, his drummer seemed rather mediocre.
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dysrhytm
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 12:53 |
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I prefer Vai and his band is great especially Tony MacAlpine!
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 12:46 |
Vai - he's far more inventive/creative than Satch.
I'd like to choose Satch, because his mastery of melody is stronger than Vai's, but I kind of stop caring about melody when Vai lets loose the fireworks.
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jdtrbn
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 12:42 |
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Vai has one good song (For the love of God), Satriani has two(Always with me, always with you and Mountain Song) .
So, I choose Satriani. I'm not really fond of either's playing, it's somehow ear-numbing.
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 12:41 |
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I much prefer Satriani. He's a much more melodic guitar player at puts more emotion into his playing IMO.
MikeEnRegalia,
Satriani was Vai's first teacher before Vai fell in love with Zappa's
music and you can still hear a lot of Satriani's influence in Vai's
playing, particularly when they're jamming together.
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Calvo
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 12:37 |
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Satriani all the way!!!
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Shaman
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 12:35 |
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Vai not only studied music with Satriani, he also graduated from Berklee school, and studied theory with several jazz musicians and of course he learned a lot from master Zappa (his main influence).
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 12:23 |
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satch owns vai.
I simply cannot stand Vai's personality on or off stage, and I think overall he focuses way too much on image and flash rather than content of music.
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sularetal
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 12:01 |
memowakeman wrote:
sularetal wrote:
Let's not forget JS is Vai's teacher. However I'm sure most people here will choose vai because his sound is closer to prog. I saw vai a month ago and he was amazing. His technique, his compositions, his F*ck!ng INCREDIBLE band....everything.
However having seen the first two G3 concerts and owing some vai and some satriani cds I have to say I'm more attracted by Satriani's playing.....
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Not exactly, i will choose Vai, only because he is better than Joe
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Bull*hit how do you know that? I hate it when people say that.... "Oh I'll vote for Portnoy of course.....he's much faster and more creative than neil peart is ever going to be"
The point is which one appeals you..... Which one YOU enjoy the most. To know who's better you have to put them next to each other and tell them to play the same things but still I think you wouldnt be able to say.......
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sularetal
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 11:54 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
sularetal wrote:
Let's not forget JS is Vai's teacher.
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Wow ... let us quickly forget that. IF ANY person deserves to be called Vai's "teacher", then it would be Zappa.
Yes sorry. Too strong word . I agree with that but he surely influenced him.
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Erik
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Posted: December 13 2005 at 11:49 |
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Yesterday there was a Vai concert with a metropole orchestra on TV. It was recorded this July in the Netherlands. Vai wrote the bulk of the music for this concert and I have to admit he did a really good job.
I havn't heard enough Satriani to really judge, I only own one Vai album so I'm not in a position to judge.
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