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Poll Question: How much classical music do you listen to?
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    Posted: January 12 2006 at 20:09
Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

For me, classical music often seems to be lacking something and I tried to work out what it is. I figured out that it's the rythym section. I like music with drums and bass and a bit of pace and aggression and classical music misses that most of the time. I really like the sound of classical instruments though so when they are played together with a rock band, that's the best music for me. I am very much into things like:

  • ELP adaptations of classical pieces
  • Yngwie Malmsteen playing with an orchestra
  • Metallica's S&M album
  • Rick Wakeman playing live with an orchestra
  • Yes's Magnification album

Probably you never heard A Night at the Bald Mountain or In the Hall of the Mountain King, that's aggressive and full of rhythm.

Many Modern Classical composers added solid percussion and aggression to their music also.

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For me, classical music often seems to be lacking something and I tried to work out what it is. I figured out that it's the rythym section. I like music with drums and bass and a bit of pace and aggression and classical music misses that most of the time. I really like the sound of classical instruments though so when they are played together with a rock band, that's the best music for me. I am very much into things like:

  • ELP adaptations of classical pieces
  • Yngwie Malmsteen playing with an orchestra
  • Metallica's S&M album
  • Rick Wakeman playing live with an orchestra
  • Yes's Magnification album


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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Try some Rakhmaninov, Debussy or Dvorak.

If virtuosity's your thing, try tracking down a recording of Pganini's caprices - bearing in mind that critics at the time said that they were impossible to play by anyone except Paganini, and most modern violinists struggle like hell with them!



Good idea! I heard a recording of which was supposedly how Paganini meant for the 5th Caprice to be played. I also heard that there was a time when no one in the world could play it. Sounds very interesting, I should look more into him.


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Try some Rakhmaninov, Debussy or Dvorak.

If virtuosity's your thing, try tracking down a recording of Pganini's caprices - bearing in mind that critics at the time said that they were impossible to play by anyone except Paganini, and most modern violinists struggle like hell with them!
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I'm trying to get into classical. I've only heard a little bit of Chopin, Mozart, Prokofiev, Beethoven, Holst, and Bach. But it doesn't hold my interest enough as metal (including prog metal, of course). But I do like it....
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I like prog and something of classical!We cam say prog is like classical!!

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Only prog covers of classics (ELP etc)
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Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Classical is the only other mian type of music I tend to listen to, besides Prog...

I particularly like Sibelius, Dvorak, Smetana, Tchaikovsky, Brahms & Beethoven... (& Mendelsohnn, when he's not too flowery...)











things like this warm me up inside
 
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Classical is the only other mian type of music I tend to listen to, besides Prog...

I particularly like Sibelius, Dvorak, Smetana, Tchaikovsky, Brahms & Beethoven... (& Mendelsohnn, when he's not too flowery...)
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Originally posted by ElwoodHerring ElwoodHerring wrote:

Very interesting results, I must say. It's confirmed what I suspected; that Prog lovers are generally Classical lovers too. (I know the term "Classical" is strictly confined to a certain rather vague period, but everybody knows what is meant by the term.)

I agree with you, even though I believe it works in the opposite way, people who received classical formation or live in an environment where Classical music is played will accept Prog' Rock easier than a guy who doen't have that background.

(From now on and to avoid problems with Certified I will refer to Classical Music and Classic epoch)

The composer Alfred Schnittke once said "I love ALL music!" so maybe he was a prog-head too!

Everything is possible but not probable, because he was almost in his 40's when Prog was well known.

I'm currently working on a book on the development of classical music; if anybody wants to read what I've written so far, feel free. So far I've covered the development of the symphony up to the end of the C19th, and about to tackle the C20th.

I will download it.

The PDF file is at http://www.herring.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/whatismusic.pdf



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I'm 50% prog and 50% classical...
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Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


If you want any recommendations...


 


hint: Dvorak's Cello Concerto and Stravinsky's Rite of Spring



Thanks, I will check them out!


Just trying to get my head around Mahler's 5th...


EDIT: I'll take a note of Debussy and Schmidt, too, Oliver, thanks



That's a pleasure.
Among the both , Debussy in prioritary way.
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Love both.

Favourite composers: JS Bach, Mahler, Shostakovich, Brahms, Dvorak, Debussy, but also less well-known composers like Suk, Takemitsu and Salinen.
Favourite compositions: too many to list.
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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

If you want any recommendations...

 

hint: Dvorak's Cello Concerto and Stravinsky's Rite of Spring

Thanks, I will check them out!

Just trying to get my head around Mahler's 5th...

EDIT: I'll take a note of Debussy and Schmidt, too, Oliver, thanks



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...just discovered "Schmidt/La tragédie de Salomé", a french modern composer who inspired Stravinsky.
His music is closed to Stravinsky with a slight Ravel influence.



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If you want any recommendations...

 

hint: Dvorak's Cello Concerto and Stravinsky's Rite of Spring
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Just bought this one and it's an absolute must-have (both interpretation and sound):

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I've only started seriously checking out classical recently, and I can safely say I'm into it, both classical 'proper' and contemporary.
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Very interesting results, I must say. It's confirmed what I suspected; that Prog lovers are generally Classical lovers too. (I know the term "Classical" is strictly confined to a certain rather vague period, but everybody knows what is meant by the term.)

The composer Alfred Schnittke once said "I love ALL music!" so maybe he was a prog-head too!

I'm currently working on a book on the development of classical music; if anybody wants to read what I've written so far, feel free. So far I've covered the development of the symphony up to the end of the C19th, and about to tackle the C20th.

The PDF file is at http://www.herring.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/whatismusic.pdf
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