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Gianthogweed
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Topic: Progressive Nonsense Posted: November 26 2005 at 02:17 |
Eugene Salamati wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
I read somewhere that Bill Bruford left Yes in '72 because he thought the band was moving towards a direction that was too much commercially oriented |
It is true. I heard the same from one of the radio interviews with YES members. YES direction on "Close To The Edge" seemed commercial only to Bill Bruford, it doesn't mean the band was commercial in general.
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No, he just felt he and the band had accomplished the best that they could possibly accomplish at that point. They had reached their peak, and there was no topping themselves from there, it was all downhill. In a way, he was right. Although they still had 3 great albums in them after he left, Close to the Edge and Yessongs was their peak.
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RoyalJelly
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:31 |
nimrodel wrote:
There is a rumor that Frank Zappa ate sh*t on
stage in NY at the 70s... i dont know if its true... but it sounds kinda
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That's the biggest myth in all of prog, a "gross-out" contest between
Zappa, sometimes with Alice Cooper, over who could be most gross...in
this myth, an audience member poops onstage, and Zappa outdoes him
by consuming the tasty morsel. Patently absurd, perhaps spawned by the
fact of Frank having once posed for a photo on a toilet, which became
one of THE iconic posters of the 60s. Frank himself commented, "The
closest I ever came to eating sh*t was a Holiday Inn buffet luncheon".
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nimrodel
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:16 |
There is a rumor that Frank Zappa ate sh*t on stage in NY at the 70s... i dont know if its true... but it sounds kinda shocking..
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We want... a shrubbery!
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Chipiron
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 08:09 |
darren wrote:
Not prog but I read:
Joni Mitchell told a group of session musicians to "play more orange". She didn't know how to read music and could only describe music in terms of colour. She thought everybody thought of music this way.
Actually, it's true. The story was from an interview of Ms. Mitchell herself.
My favourite... how did I foget? (again, not prog... sorry):
George Harrison was depressed about the direction that the Beatles were going, his wife left him for his best friend and he was strung out on drugs and feeling sick. He hadn't touched a guitar in weeks. His friend Eric Idle dropped off a gift (a new guitar). That afternoon, despite being in the depths of dispair, George sat quietly in his garden and wrote "Here Comes The Sun".
I heard this one at some kind of seminar. I forget what the point of the story was supposed to be. No, I don't believe it.
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Beautiful story... Here's another that should have been truth but I'm afraid it wasn't:
Jose Carreras (from Barcelona) and Placido Domingo (from Madrid) hated each other to death until Carreras got leukemia (I think it's written like that). He spent many years visiting the most expensive doctors until he spent all his fortune. Eventually, an association in Madrid cured him for free. When he was again healthy and had returned to singing, he investigated and found out that the association was funded by Domingo, who had created it secretly to avoid losing a great voice like Carreras' one. They became real friends and (that's the sad part) created "The Three Tenors"
Hope you liked it... 
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darren
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Posted: November 24 2005 at 07:55 |
Not prog but I read:
Joni Mitchell told a group of session musicians to "play more orange". She didn't know how to read music and could only describe music in terms of colour. She thought everybody thought of music this way.
Actually, it's true. The story was from an interview of Ms. Mitchell herself.
My favourite... how did I foget? (again, not prog... sorry):
George Harrison was depressed about the direction that the Beatles were going, his wife left him for his best friend and he was strung out on drugs and feeling sick. He hadn't touched a guitar in weeks. His friend Eric Idle dropped off a gift (a new guitar). That afternoon, despite being in the depths of dispair, George sat quietly in his garden and wrote "Here Comes The Sun".
I heard this one at some kind of seminar. I forget what the point of the story was supposed to be. No, I don't believe it.
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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 18:09 |
I'm liking the list of Andersons there Dick, well done. Miller
Anderson I feel is very underated and should get more
recognition. Do you know if Hemlock was any good? That
album is a bit sortafter, so I was curious.
Add one more: Andy Anderson (drums on a Steve Hillage album)
I saw MillerAnderson (without knowing it at the time), play way back in
the 1980s in an all-stars band, along with Spencer Davis, Zoot Money
and Pete Yorke amongst others.
How about Smiths? There is the Smith who played with VdGG, anymore?
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Frasse
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 07:08 |
Chipiron wrote:
I have read somewhere that Genesis kept playing in the 80s...  |
Just false rumours, I can tell you.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 06:46 |
Bruce Dickinson-Lead singer of Iron Maiden
OR
Bruce Dickinson-Responsible for mixing various men at work albums 
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Chipiron
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 06:42 |
I have read somewhere that Genesis kept playing in the 80s...
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Dick Heath
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Posted: November 23 2005 at 06:29 |
Geck0 wrote:
I didn't know that, that's amusing.
All we need now is:
Dave Stewart - keyboards Dave Stewart - keyboards Phil Miller - guitar Steve Miller - vocals Steve Miller (R.I.P.) - piano Richard Sinclair - bass/vocals David Sinclair - keyboards Pip Pyle - drums Artimus Pyle (Lynyrd Skynyrd) - drums Pye Hastings Jimmy Hastings - Saxophone
Confusion! |
And introducing the Anderson Singers (the Von Trapps of the prog world):
Ian Anderson (the Tull one)
Ian Anderson (the other one, the Anglo-Celtic folk singer)
Jon Anderson (occasional guest singer with Bela Fleck)
Moira Anderson (the Scots opera singer)
Miller Anderson (Keef Hartley Band)
And lyric writer: Hans Christian Anderson
With the rest of Stewart family: Rod, Al and their driver Jackie
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RaphaelT
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Posted: November 22 2005 at 12:00 |
And the whole prog thing started with "Confusion will be my Epitaph" 
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yet you still have time!
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 17:00 |
I didn't know that, that's amusing.
All we need now is:
Dave Stewart - keyboards
Dave Stewart - keyboards
Phil Miller - guitar
Steve Miller - vocals
Steve Miller (R.I.P.) - piano
Richard Sinclair - bass/vocals
David Sinclair - keyboards
Pip Pyle - drums
Artimus Pyle (Lynyrd Skynyrd) - drums
Pye Hastings
Jimmy Hastings - Saxophone
Confusion!
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Syzygy
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 16:12 |
Geck0 wrote:
Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster!
Sorry, not prog I know, but it never happened apparently.
Ooh, I have one, not properly prog-related, but some friends of mine claim Peter Green's playing on Albatross is by a session musician..., I don't believe this for one moment!
I did think for a brief moment that Dave Stewart of Hatfield and The North was the guy from the Eurythmics and Curve, but I didn't think that was the case.
Some true facts:
Jimi Hendrix played a comb and paper on "Crosstown Traffic". Deep Purple's "Smoke On The Water" is about a Frank Zappa concert and the venue burning down. Apparenlty Jeff Beck when he was in the Yardbirds, never bothered to tune his guitar properly...
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Both Dave Stewarts appeared on the same Steve Hillage album - I think it was Open? - and one of them was credited as David Stewart.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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lunaticviolist
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 15:42 |
Geck0 wrote:
How about Tull, Jethro? I've not seen it personally, but I'm sure it has somewhere.
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One of my friends had Tull, Jethro in his music library on his computer.
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My recent purchases:
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Suki
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Posted: November 21 2005 at 14:55 |
When someone in my school said they play 'Punk progressive'..
I said no such thing exist and claimed that such remark was foolishly made by Greenday fans..
Well, he mainly likes Blink 182 and he described me how he plays the drums and how his playing probably makes their music progressive..
I personally find it stupid...
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 23:41 |
Freddie Starr Ate My Hamster!
Sorry, not prog I know, but it never happened apparently.
Ooh, I have one, not properly prog-related, but some friends of mine
claim Peter Green's playing on Albatross is by a session musician..., I
don't believe this for one moment!
I did think for a brief moment that Dave Stewart of Hatfield and The
North was the guy from the Eurythmics and Curve, but I didn't think
that was the case.
Some true facts:
Jimi Hendrix played a comb and paper on "Crosstown Traffic".
Deep Purple's "Smoke On The Water" is about a Frank Zappa concert and the venue burning down.
Apparenlty Jeff Beck when he was in the Yardbirds, never bothered to tune his guitar properly...
Edited by Geck0
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darren
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 23:25 |
More are coming back to me...
That squealing sound in Pink Floyd's "Echoes" was a recording by Greenpeace of a harpooned and dying whale. In an interview with David Gilmore, he said the sound came about when he accidentally plugged a guitar into a guitar pedal backwards, loved the sound and went with it.
During "The Wall" tour, Syd Barrett applied for a job as a roadie for Pink Floyd. Some rumours say he did work as one... under an assumed name, naturally.
When ELP was forming, their original intent was to have Jimi Hendrix join them. Jimi was seriously considering it but he died of an overdose. (I don't know if it's true or if it's just to set up that they'd be called HELP).
Speaking of Mr. Hendrix:
He came off stage. Someone picked up his guitar and it was out of tune. Jimi later picked up the guitar and, without retuning, walked out and played a brilliant encore. The idea is that he could bend the strings to pitch as he played. Mind you, I've heard other versions of the same story but with Eddy Van Halen and The Edge.
I'm sure I'll remember more, I've always loved urban myth- type stories.
Then there's The Mudshark, The Zappa Gross Out Contest and Alice Cooper biting the head off a chicken... Ah, never mind.
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"they locked up a man who wanted to rule the world.
the fools
they locked up the wrong man."
- Leonard Cohen
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 08:07 |
darren wrote:
It was discussed on another thread but I also heard that Steve Howe couldn't read music. |
I don't know for sure whether Steve Howe can read music now, but in the beginning of his career he couldn't. I always thought he is classically-trained musician and I was surprised when read in Chris Welch book "Close To The Edge. The Story of Yes" that Steve is a self-taught guitarist.
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greenback
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Posted: November 20 2005 at 06:14 |
i used to believe for a long time that IQ's drummer Paul Cook started with the Sex Pistols!
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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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laztraz
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Posted: November 19 2005 at 23:54 |
darren wrote:
Just remembered another:
Waaaaay back when, it was rumoured that the band Klaatu was really The Beatles reformed and secretly recording under another name.
It didn't help that the band itself didn't tour and were rather reclusive. The band also didn't spend much effort to deny this, since it was good for album sales.
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I had forgotten that!!!
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