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RoyalJelly 
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 Topic: Snow Goose on the way up
Posted: November 14 2005 at 15:50 |
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Camel's music has always struck me as very comfortable
and riding in the wake of the innovations the important
progressive bands made. I hate to interrupt this love-fest, but
isn't progressive rock supposed to have some guts and edge to
it? I haven't heard the album in many years, but remember it
being very pleasant and unchallenging, which could possibly
pass for good elevator music as well.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 15:38 |
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No....my favorite is Mirage
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salmacis
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 15:36 |
I'd have to say it was Camel's finest and best album- the music contained within it is just gorgeous and full of emotional content. I'd overlooked it for a while (I'd been ploughing through their later albums), but when I played it I fell in love with the album again and it would definitely be my fave album of theirs.
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 15:29 |
 Gedhead wrote:
Snow Goose's top ten placement makes a joke out of this site. 
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Why would such a beautifully crafted, wonderfully played and emotive album make 'a joke out of this site'?? I think Camel give the genre a very good name, and are far more accessible than most prog acts, yet there's just as much depth in their music as VDGG's imo, for example, and imo far MORE emotional depth than there is in Dream Theater's work....
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 14:31 |
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Agreed, a question of taste. I would rate Farewell to Kings as 4*. I prefer their earlier, harder material like 2112 and Fly By Night. But I like metal, you see!
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 14:01 |
Tony Fisher wrote:
Dragon Phoenix wrote:
The 16 most recent ratings without review, all within the last 3 weeks:
 Rating by AndyQnewborth @ 5:15:28 PM EST, 10/20/2005
Rating by MIsty @ 12:24:32 PM EST, 10/21/2005
Rating by victor @ 12:40:09 PM EST, 10/21/2005
Rating by Dan Mattson @ 8:23:32 PM EST, 10/21/2005
Rating by Jedi @ 12:22:08 PM EST, 10/22/2005
Rating by Pjeedro @ 11:16:01 AM EST, 10/23/2005
Rating by smuk @ 11:33:41 AM EST, 10/23/2005
Rating by holly diver @ 4:21:00 PM EST, 10/24/2005
Rating by 554 @ 4:59:57 PM EST, 10/25/2005
Rating by goose @ 6:39:33 AM EST, 10/30/2005
Rating by I&W @ 4:53:27 PM EST, 10/31/2005
Rating by homer simpson @ 10:30:45 AM EST, 11/4/2005
Rating by R_DeNIRO @ 10:09:00 AM EST, 11/6/2005
Rating by Olympus @ 11:48:12 PM EST, 11/9/2005
Rating by amuerte @ 4:44:10 AM EST, 11/11/2005
Rating by A32 @ 6:15:50 PM EST, 11/13/2005
Which makes you wonder whether some people are trying to push this album up the chart....
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Has it occurred to you that they just might like it?
I've lent my copy to a couple of my Sixthformers. They lent it on and it's been going round so I now have no idea where it is. But they all love it, apparently. So let's not knock an album that clearly has the power to turn young people on to prog.
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I agree, no conspiracy here, it is a popular album and very good too, and Goose wouldn't give a 5 star review unless he meant it!
Disagree with your Rush commenrs though and I think Rush have have quite a few albums better than Snow Goose, A Farewell To Kings for a start, and thats definitely prog, its all a question of taste though!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 13:56 |
FragileDT wrote:
I never really got into Camel. Anybody have an idea of a good starting point
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How about Snow Goose?
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memowakeman
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 13:32 |
Yes... my fav of course 
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FragileDT
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 13:29 |
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I never really got into Camel. Anybody have an idea of a good starting point
from them?
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 13:08 |
Dragon Phoenix wrote:
The 16 most recent ratings without review, all within the last 3 weeks:
Rating by AndyQnewborth @ 5:15:28 PM EST, 10/20/2005
Rating by MIsty @ 12:24:32 PM EST, 10/21/2005
Rating by victor @ 12:40:09 PM EST, 10/21/2005
Rating by Dan Mattson @ 8:23:32 PM EST, 10/21/2005
Rating by Jedi @ 12:22:08 PM EST, 10/22/2005
Rating by Pjeedro @ 11:16:01 AM EST, 10/23/2005
Rating by smuk @ 11:33:41 AM EST, 10/23/2005
Rating by holly diver @ 4:21:00 PM EST, 10/24/2005
Rating by 554 @ 4:59:57 PM EST, 10/25/2005
Rating by goose @ 6:39:33 AM EST, 10/30/2005
Rating by I&W @ 4:53:27 PM EST, 10/31/2005
Rating by homer simpson @ 10:30:45 AM EST, 11/4/2005
Rating by R_DeNIRO @ 10:09:00 AM EST, 11/6/2005
Rating by Olympus @ 11:48:12 PM EST, 11/9/2005
Rating by amuerte @ 4:44:10 AM EST, 11/11/2005
Rating by A32 @ 6:15:50 PM EST, 11/13/2005
Which makes you wonder whether some people are trying to push this album up the chart....
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Has it occurred to you that they just might like it?
I've lent my copy to a couple of my Sixthformers. They lent it on and it's been going round so I now have no idea where it is. But they all love it, apparently. So let's not knock an album that clearly has the power to turn young people on to prog.
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:52 |
net the best, in my opinion, but still a beautiful album
my first is mirage!
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:48 |
well i just own 3 Camel Albums... my favs in this order:
1. Mirage
2. Moonmadness
3. Snow Goose
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Most listened albums last week
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Tony Fisher
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:30 |
Gedhead wrote:
Snow Goose's top ten placement makes a joke out of this site.
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It has a damn sight more right to be there than any Rush album. I like Rush (and have done since the early 70s) but they are borderline for prog in my view (they were always hard rock/ metal amongst the student community in the 70s) and none of their studio albums come near the Snow Goose. They are best live.
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:55 |
Snow Goose was my first Camel album, and it was a wonderful choice to start listening to this band.
1.Snow Goose / 2.Mirage / 3. Moonmadness / 4. Camel
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:42 |
chopper wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
chopper wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Radioactive Toy wrote:
snow goose is my #4 really:
1. Moonmadness
2. Mirage
3. Camel
4. Snow goose
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I agree with this ranking.........or Blackswords above, I can't decide, but I'm of the definite opinion it is not the best.
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I'm surprised at that, I would have thought Snow Goose would be your number one, considering it's one of your relatives.
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 ..this is often the mistake of the novice........you see its a goose, I'm a legendary figure represented by a dog, the fact that we both love the white stuff doesn't make us related!
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Ah, my mistake. I guess you're not related to the Snow Queen either then?
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I hope not, I tupped her last night!
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:37 |
Snow Dog wrote:
chopper wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Radioactive Toy wrote:
snow goose is my #4 really:
1. Moonmadness
2. Mirage
3. Camel
4. Snow goose
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I agree with this ranking.........or Blackswords above, I can't decide, but I'm of the definite opinion it is not the best.
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I'm surprised at that, I would have thought Snow Goose would be your number one, considering it's one of your relatives.
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..this is often the mistake of the novice........you see its a goose, I'm a legendary figure represented by a dog, the fact that we both love the white stuff doesn't make us related!
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Ah, my mistake. I guess you're not related to the Snow Queen either then?
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 09:10 |
chopper wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Radioactive Toy wrote:
snow goose is my #4 really:
1. Moonmadness
2. Mirage
3. Camel
4. Snow goose
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I agree with this ranking.........or Blackswords above, I can't decide, but I'm of the definite opinion it is not the best.
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I'm surprised at that, I would have thought Snow Goose would be your number one, considering it's one of your relatives.
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..this is often the mistake of the novice........you see its a goose, I'm a legendary figure represented by a dog, the fact that we both love the white stuff doesn't make us related!
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chopper
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 08:42 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Radioactive Toy wrote:
snow goose is my #4 really:
1. Moonmadness
2. Mirage
3. Camel
4. Snow goose
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I agree with this ranking.........or Blackswords above, I can't decide, but I'm of the definite opinion it is not the best.
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I'm surprised at that, I would have thought Snow Goose would be your number one, considering it's one of your relatives.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 08:29 |
Radioactive Toy wrote:
snow goose is my #4 really:
1. Moonmadness
2. Mirage
3. Camel
4. Snow goose
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I agree with this ranking.........or Blackswords above, I can't decide, but I'm of the definite opinion it is not the best.
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Blacksword
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Posted: November 14 2005 at 08:06 |
No..
1 - Moonmadness
2 - Mirage
3 - Snowgoose
4 - Camel
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