We -need- progressive rap.

hey man im not blowing my own horn but you want to hear some progressive crrpto funk rap.  Check out my website  www.joemorris.net and listen to a song frommyy cd called Arrhythmia.  The song is called Decon Recon  You might like it

Thanks Adam, I'll check out DJ Screw. I've been sidetracked alot with new albums to listen to and work from the teams, but I'll look for him.

Skoojoo wrote: Only the music snobs that say "anything other than Progressive (or jazz or classical) is 'popular' music" accually CONSIDER rhythm as music. Being a backbone doesnt make it a whole being, African Drumlines are infact... not music. Drums are made to keep the music at pace (and maybe entertain with solos and such) but who the hell has ever heard of a rap-drum solo? It is NOT music for infact it is an element to create music, you CAN have music without a drum, but you cant have music without instruments that create notes, drums have PITCHES not a NOTES. There is rap-music fusions, but that is music, not simply rap, it has musical elements. I know music definitions, but i also know REALITY!!!! a ficticious place to many in this site, from what i can tell.

First of all, don't call me a music snob. You don't know me so stop the presumptions and insults.

Second, where did you find all those "facts" that you're talking about? The last time I checked African Drumlines are music. Rhythm is music. It's one of the three fundamental elements in music (others being harmony and melody, but you already know that), but rhythm is the only essential element of the three and, no, drums aren't the only instrument capable of making rhythm so I don't know why you brought that out to the discussion.

You can music without a drum, but you can't have music without rhythm although you can have music without harmony or melody.

Also, Rap / Hip-hip music isn't only based on rhythm. It has harmony and melodies as well. You need to stop dismissing and actually pay attention to the music and you'll see what I mean.

chamberry wrote: Fair enough, but some people here want to keep rap as far away as possible from Progarchives. This album will definitely be a shocker for them.

Skoojoo wrote: ok, all i know is that rap IS NOT MUSIC... its Rhythm And Poetry, neither are music, so combined... they dont make music. Doing it in strange time signatures WILL NOT make progressive MUSIC!!! thus should not even be considered by people who listen to MUSIC as... music, and should not be placed anywhere near this site... but yet, it is a progressive site, but all based on progressive MUSIC. so is this site progressive music site or a progressive... site?

Thanks for the forewarning, I was tempted to check the genre out... thankfully I didn't waste any of my money on this sh*t!!

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: chamberry wrote: And sorry to pop balloons here, but there already is a rap artists in Progarchives. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15232   Only because they played with Faust, the entry is for Faust and we add all the discography, but not for Dalek own merits.   I could also say that George Michael and Lisa Stanfield are in Prog Archives:   http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10705   But this is a falacy, the entry is for Queen.   Iván

Fair enough, but some people here want to keep rap as far away as possible from Progarchives. This album will definitely be a shocker for them.

E-Dub wrote: I need rap in my prog about as much as I need a scorching case of genital warts. Keep 'em separated...on both counts!!! E

Why can't rap and prog be together?

To say progressive rap doesn't exist is like saying Buddy Rich doesn't know how to play drums.

And sorry to pop balloons here, but there already is a rap artists in Progarchives.

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15232



Edited by chamberry - July 15 2007 at 22:15

Dalek

Dalek

 

Dalek is progressive rap in the truest sense of the word. 

 

a collaboration with krautrockers Faust in 2004

 

influences are: My Bloody Valentine and Sonic Youth. 

 

The new album, Abandoned Language, has received critical acclaim.  I've listned to tracks on their myspace and it sounds great, especially reminiscent of Massive Attack's Mezzazine.  It's on "to buy" list for 2007.  It will tough for MA's Weather Underground to match the brilliance Dalek's new album.