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Direct Link To This Post Topic: The one song that defines prog
    Posted: November 16 2005 at 03:22
That is a hard question,  would i choose for
  • Echoes of Pink Floyd or
  • Gates of Delirium by Yes or
  • Mother Nature by Mostly Autumn or
  • IQ, Pendragon, Marillion, Genesis, Mike Oldfield, FlowerKings, Magenta???
Or just choose for a recent single that conbines all those bands in one great proggy epic of 13 minutes, screaming guitars, flute, ullian pipes, organ, crazy bass loops, harp, slide, tempo changes and the most amazing & delightful voices of the temporary prog;

  • All Around The World: ProgAID  ('05).
With:
Neal Morse
Roine Stolt - The Flower Kings
Pete Trewavas - Marillion
Anthony Phillips
Martin Orford - IQ
Peter Nicholls - IQ
John Jowitt - IQ
Alan Reed - Pallas
Nick Barrett - Pendragon
Clive Nolan - Arena / Pendragon
John Mitchell - Arena & The Urbane & Kino
Gary Chandler - Jadis
Arjen Lucassen - Ayreon
Oliver Wakeman
Steve Balsamo - Alan Parsons Project
Troy Donockley - Iona
Bryan Josh - Mostly Autumn
Steve Gee - Landmarq
Tracy Hitchings - Landmarq
Dave Wagstaff - Landmarq
Bruce Soord - Pineapple Thief
Stu Nicholson - Galahad
Rob Reed - Magenta
Christina - Magenta
Allan Mason Jones - Magenta
Glass Hammer
Mike Baker & Gary Wehrkamp - Shadow Gallery
Doogie White - ex Rainbow & Yngwie Malmsteen
Rob Gould - Fula
Steve Taylor - Strangefish
Danny Chang - The Fyreworks
Andy Edwards - Ezra
Chris Dale - Sack Trick & Bruce Dickinson
Rachel Jones - ex Karnataka
Paul Davies - ex Karnataka & Panic Room
Jonathan Edwards - ex Karnataka & Panic Room
Bluehorses

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 21:46

there are a few Amon Duul II tracks that i think define it well

1.  Cerberus

2.  Sleepwalkers Timeless Bridge

3.  Wie der Wind am Ende einer Strasse

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 18:59
I know this is off topic, and as a newbie I'm not allowed to start a new thread, but I wonder if everyone here is aware of the current lawsuits springing up against Sony and their evil DRM copy protection software.

If you don't know what the hell I'm on about then I suggest you get clued up and look at some of these links - oh, and don't buy Sony products (and tell all your friends too!)

http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/11/the_bush _admini.html

http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/

http://www.eff.org/IP/DRM/Sony-BMG/?f=open-letter-2005-11-14 .html

There is plenty more information going around on the same subject. Just google for any combination of the words SONY, rootkit, russinovich, DRM, "First 4 Internet" etc.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 18:37

 

SUPPER'S READY!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 18:27
Britney Spears - Toxic

to define something is easier to find its contrary
La Speranza della coscienza è forza
La Speranza del sentimento è schiavitù
La Speranza del corpo è malattia
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:42

Yes-Yours Is No Disgrace

Chicago-Introduction

Genesis-Dancing With The Moonlit Knight

 

Whenever I listen to the above songs, the thought always crosses my mind as these sounding like prog. I mean, these songs just have 'the prog sound,' if you know what I mean.  The time shifts, changes in key or instrumentation, varying phases, and virtuoso musicianship.

'So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?'
'You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?'
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:19

Radiohead - The National Anthem

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:25

King Crimson - "Starless"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:23
Originally posted by Pseud0 Pseud0 wrote:

close to the edge obviously


AGREED!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:15

I'm torn....

CLOSE TO THE EDGE, SUPPER'S READY, SHINE ON YOU CRAZY DIAMOND, THICK AS A BRICK, 2112

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:57
hmmm i would go for
 
old prog Yes - Close to the Edge

new prog : Transatlantic - Stranger in your Soul
That which doesn't kill you, postpones the inevitable
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 14:33

Pink Floyd- Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast

 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 12:32
I don't think there is any song that could be able to define prog-rock. But in general the most experimental (and in my opinion most progressive) bands I have ever heard are Gentle Giant and ELP.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 02:42
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Genesis - Firth of Fifth?

It has both electronic and acoustic instruments, quiet and loud passages, great singing (soft and more aggressive) and great instrumental playing, it's lyrical content is surrealistic, it showcases fabulous group interaction but also wonderful solos (Banks & Hackett), it's a stretched out song with different passages but with a unifying theme...

What do you think? 

Good choice.  It was one of my introductions to prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:59
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by ivan_2068 ivan_2068 wrote:

LOL  Good point, except that I said Classical Influenced and Stravinsly is Classical Modern

So you mean bands can only be influenced by composers from 1730-1820?

No Cert, Classical is a wide term, there's Clasical Baroque, Classical Romantic, Classical Modern, etc. You're confusing classical with Classic Period. When I say Classical I'm talking about Medieval/Gothic, Renaisance, Baroque, Classic Period, Romantic and Modern Classical.

BTW: Classical modern doesn't start in 1730, that's CLASSIC period, more exactly 1750 - 1830, in 1830 starts Romantic and Modern Classical starts in 1900 Aprox.

Where does that leave Gentle Giant?

Gentle Giant has influences that come from Medieval (The Trouvadore style of the vocals is very evident) plus Baroque and Classic (Not the same as classical) also uses some influence of Romantic and Modern complex structures.

BTW: Stravinsky is a great Prog' influence, his dramatic and unexpected variations are simply the closest Classical Music can get to Prog Rock.

Amen to that - but I think Debussy and Dvorak were close too, and Messiaen went several stages further. Stravinsky did rock more, though - the elaborate time changes in "Le Sacre du Printemps" are stunning, and I love that hard-hitting bar in 11/4...

And Mussorgski, Cui, Janacek, Borodin, Tchaikovsky, etc etc etc.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 01:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:59

Originally posted by Soulman Soulman wrote:

Iono I tend to disagree. The middle part is just like a fast swing/blues riff. The only thing that's proggy about that song is the atmospheric beginning and crashing end.

...... sounds a little hippie to me..........

but its prog definitely


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:58
Originally posted by Soulman Soulman wrote:

Iono I tend to disagree. The middle part is just like a fast swing/blues riff. The only thing that's proggy about that song is the atmospheric beginning and crashing end.

So the noises at the beggining are prog but the instrumental section is not .. ? I dont register.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:54
Iono I tend to disagree. The middle part is just like a fast swing/blues riff. The only thing that's proggy about that song is the atmospheric beginning and crashing end.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 00:53
Originally posted by Soulman Soulman wrote:

^^^

Why 21st Century Schizoid Man? That song is sooo bluesy and that's not even what prog has evolved into.

The chorus is bluesy maybe but the instrumental in the middle is pure prog! And honestly the song is MUCH more jazzy than it is blues, but undoubtedly prog!


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